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PixelDimension |
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Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 81/95 EXP: 55580 Next: 2770 Since: 06-15-14 Last post: 2616 days ago Last view: 2487 days ago |
if this would fit better in Relaxland, please move it there. thanks
I've recently become interested in languages, and I've started to notice quite a few oddities. Here are a few of them: Let's start with words for the same thing. English: worm German: wurm French: ver Icelandic: ormur Swedish: mask And another one: English: volume Portuguese: volume Spanish: volumen French: volume Swedish: volym Norwegian: volum Italian: volume Finnish: äänenvoimakkuus And another: English: table German: tabelle French: table Italian: tavolo Spanish: mesa And that's just words. Now let's go on to grammar: We'll start with English, a classic example of weird grammar. Let's use the verb "walk" as an example for this. Past tense: I walked We walked You walked They walked He/she/it walked Future tense: I will walk We will walk You will walk They will walk He/she/it will walk So far so good... Present tense: I walk We walk You walk They walk He/she/it..........walks. Why? WHY? WHYYYYY????? And there are other crazy grammars, too. Icelandic verbs conjugate for tense, mood, person, number, and voice. In addition, the language also has 4 noun cases. But at least it's not Hungarian, which has 18 (18!!!) noun cases. Or Finnish, where it is perfectly normal to have an entire sentence be made up of one complicated word: for example, "juoksentelisinkohan", which translates to "I wonder if I should run around aimlessly?" And there are so many more crazy things, too. I'll add to this post as I think of more. |
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Fire Mario DROP TABLE users; Level: 123 Posts: 4210/4661 EXP: 20894437 Next: 336829 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 1350 days ago Last view: 363 days ago |
english is dumb ____________________ a |
PixelDimension |
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Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 82/95 EXP: 55580 Next: 2770 Since: 06-15-14 Last post: 2616 days ago Last view: 2487 days ago |
Posted by MrRean That is something we can all agree on. cough rough though through WHY ARE THESE NOT RHYMES? |
MusiMasta |
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Buster Beetle Vaporeon Level: 43 Posts: 344/450 EXP: 558760 Next: 6286 Since: 12-09-14 Last post: 2451 days ago Last view: 2434 days ago |
How about Chinese? There's like a billion words you need to memorize. ____________________ MusiMasta - YouTube Channel Currently 374 subs! Help support me by subscribing! Thanks! Featured Videos: I PLAY POKEMON GO EVERYDAY IN 300,000 NOTES Pokémon Theme Song 260K Notes Remix |
NintendoFan |
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Normal user Level: 42 Posts: 287/403 EXP: 483605 Next: 37757 Since: 07-15-14 Last post: 2307 days ago Last view: 2301 days ago |
Yes, the English language and many others are unnecessarily complicated but that's just the way it has to be.
Besides, I don't see you trying to invent a new, simple language. If you do, good luck trying to convince the world to use that one instead. ____________________ A nobody. |
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Member The guy who does things. Level: 31 Posts: 188/207 EXP: 183481 Next: 1882 Since: 12-05-13 From: Australia Last post: 2366 days ago Last view: 2085 days ago |
If you want to talk about things that don't rhyme that should, say 'Sean Bean'. |
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(ーωー。) Level: 60 Posts: 651/959 EXP: 1738932 Next: 33846 Since: 12-07-14 From: Japan Last post: 2482 days ago Last view: 2480 days ago |
Posted by MusiMasta Oh? And I thought they said Chinese actually had way fewer vocabulary! Looks like the learners of Chinese were wrong... |
MusiMasta |
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Buster Beetle Vaporeon Level: 43 Posts: 346/450 EXP: 558760 Next: 6286 Since: 12-09-14 Last post: 2451 days ago Last view: 2434 days ago |
Honestly, Chinese is probably the hardest and most complicated language. The grammar might be easier, with the same preceding words etc, but the hard part is memorizing all the characters. There's no alphabet to help you, you have to know exactly what each character means and sounds like to able to communicate with them, although yes, early learners have bopomovo which are basically a set of mini characters along the word that help you sound out the word, but after middle school and stuff like that, I think they remove those mini helpers. ____________________ MusiMasta - YouTube Channel Currently 374 subs! Help support me by subscribing! Thanks! Featured Videos: I PLAY POKEMON GO EVERYDAY IN 300,000 NOTES Pokémon Theme Song 260K Notes Remix |
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Lakitu anime tiddies Level: 46 Posts: 105/553 EXP: 703931 Next: 7843 Since: 04-18-16 From: USA Last post: 394 days ago Last view: 183 days ago |
about like 1000 years later languages will evolve and everyone can not even understand our if they were looking back at 2016 Americans. Languages are always changing. e |
MusiMasta |
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Buster Beetle Vaporeon Level: 43 Posts: 349/450 EXP: 558760 Next: 6286 Since: 12-09-14 Last post: 2451 days ago Last view: 2434 days ago |
Yeah, but they'll always be able to look back and decipher it, as we've done with many ancient languages, for example, Egyptian hieroglyphics.
English is also most likely the last lingua franca. This means that Americans can get to be the lazy ones and not learn other languages while people of other countries must to get a better future. I wonder when smart technology of insta translation in the form of earbuds or whatnot will come out. That would be an actual smart technology. ____________________ MusiMasta - YouTube Channel Currently 374 subs! Help support me by subscribing! Thanks! Featured Videos: I PLAY POKEMON GO EVERYDAY IN 300,000 NOTES Pokémon Theme Song 260K Notes Remix |
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Normal user Level: 53 Posts: 707/712 EXP: 1144009 Next: 13110 Since: 05-24-14 From: :mroF Last post: 1136 days ago Last view: 1136 days ago |
Isaac |
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Lakitu anime tiddies Level: 46 Posts: 106/553 EXP: 703931 Next: 7843 Since: 04-18-16 From: USA Last post: 394 days ago Last view: 183 days ago |
Like bat and bat.
One is an animal the other is a tool e |
MusiMasta |
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Buster Beetle Vaporeon Level: 43 Posts: 352/450 EXP: 558760 Next: 6286 Since: 12-09-14 Last post: 2451 days ago Last view: 2434 days ago |
Well, same can be said for Chinese, different sounds can mean completely different things. For example "yi" can mean from the number one to economics. ____________________ MusiMasta - YouTube Channel Currently 374 subs! Help support me by subscribing! Thanks! Featured Videos: I PLAY POKEMON GO EVERYDAY IN 300,000 NOTES Pokémon Theme Song 260K Notes Remix |
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Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 82 Posts: 683/2062 EXP: 5098780 Next: 110447 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 419 days ago Last view: 418 days ago |
Posted by MarioFanatic64 I usually pronounce "sean" as "seen". It used to be for craps and giggles, but I just do it without thought now. |
PixelDimension |
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Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 83/95 EXP: 55580 Next: 2770 Since: 06-15-14 Last post: 2616 days ago Last view: 2487 days ago |
Another word inconsistency I forgot in the first post:
English: night Italian: notte Spanish: noche Swedish: natt French: nuit German: nacht Finnish: yö |
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Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 163 Posts: 6658/9020 EXP: 56279730 Next: 207914 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box Last post: 1 day ago Last view: 1 day ago |
PixelDimension |
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Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 84/95 EXP: 55580 Next: 2770 Since: 06-15-14 Last post: 2616 days ago Last view: 2487 days ago |
Posted by StapleButter It's called a "double u" because it actually is a double u. In Latin, u and v were the same letter, always written as v (but pronounced differently). So both names for the letter are technically correct. |
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Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 163 Posts: 6660/9020 EXP: 56279730 Next: 207914 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box Last post: 1 day ago Last view: 1 day ago |
Yami |
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(ーωー。) Level: 60 Posts: 652/959 EXP: 1738932 Next: 33846 Since: 12-07-14 From: Japan Last post: 2482 days ago Last view: 2480 days ago |
Posted by MusiMasta Source, please... Posted by MusiMasta You think so? I managed to successfully learn ~1300 Kanji in just a year, and while Kanji is more a Japanese thing, it still proves it's not as hard as you claim it to be, especially since Chinese Hanzi have way fewer possible readings. The real hard part would be the tones. Posted by MusiMasta They do have Pinyin for as a back-up, but very rarely used among adults. Besides, character meanings aren't always useful, since lots of them are being used as compound words. |
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Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 82 Posts: 693/2062 EXP: 5098780 Next: 110447 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 419 days ago Last view: 418 days ago |
Why are "finite" and "infinite" pronounced differently?
Why does "archive" have an ugly "k" and long "i" sound? |
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