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Fuzzy Good riddance! Level: 55 Posts: 725/785 EXP: 1259600 Next: 54589 Since: 05-05-15 From: secret Last post: 2913 days ago Last view: 2304 days ago |
So at this point, I'm just mocking up a tier list early in a new meta. Yay for me. >inb4 patch only just released Some positions will probably change later, this is just the potential I foresee atm. Thanks to gridatttack for recommending that tier list maker! ____________________ NNID: GreenThunder1337 3DS FC: 1521 - 5979 - 1511 |
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Fuzzy Good riddance! Level: 55 Posts: 726/785 EXP: 1259600 Next: 54589 Since: 05-05-15 From: secret Last post: 2913 days ago Last view: 2304 days ago |
Well that's really helpful, thanks! ____________________ NNID: GreenThunder1337 3DS FC: 1521 - 5979 - 1511 |
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Member The guy who does things. Level: 31 Posts: 154/207 EXP: 183497 Next: 1866 Since: 12-05-13 From: Australia Last post: 2367 days ago Last view: 2086 days ago |
Eh, tier lists ain't worth the time for me. They're mostly subjective anyways. |
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Fuzzy Good riddance! Level: 55 Posts: 732/785 EXP: 1259600 Next: 54589 Since: 05-05-15 From: secret Last post: 2913 days ago Last view: 2304 days ago |
@grid
I'm finding myself wondering why you put some of the characters where you did. Rosalina, for one, I think had Luma nerfed to hell back in patch 1.0.8 (my old main rip) Sonic really does just spam, and eventually gets really predictable Fox doesn't really have many options since his jab combo got nerfed Abadango's Meta Knight combos has him in a top-top position if you ask me Mario is definitely A-tier, Anti always keeps ZeRo on his toes Also, Luigi doesn't have many options for punishing since he slides around everywhere, so keeping him next to Mario is laughable Everything else looks pretty good though. ____________________ NNID: GreenThunder1337 3DS FC: 1521 - 5979 - 1511 |
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Giant Red Paratroopa K64 RPG Overlord Level: 73 Posts: 1104/1416 EXP: 3484586 Next: 1282 Since: 08-11-12 From: El Salvador Last post: 1075 days ago Last view: 1068 days ago |
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GreenThunder1337 |
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Fuzzy Good riddance! Level: 55 Posts: 733/785 EXP: 1259600 Next: 54589 Since: 05-05-15 From: secret Last post: 2913 days ago Last view: 2304 days ago |
Urm... Dabuz has been getting bodied lately. Including by Nairo's ZSS, who mind you, broke ZeRo's 54 tournament win streak, is considered the world's 2nd best player, AND is the best ZSS. So...
Never seen a Sonic that didn't spam. Duck Hunt's too, just saying. Sonic's up kill throw combo has a 50-50 chance of hitting because it's a read. So if you air dodge a lot, that will make Sonics look good. It's about as good as Shiek's Vanish read. I'm completely lost on where Fox is good. If you run into a Falcon, you're pretty screwed. There tend to be quite a few Falcons in tournaments. I mean, that recovery is SO gimpable! Yeah, Meta Knight's window to pull of a Shuttle Loop combo is kinda small, but Abadango STILL manages to pull it off. Mario doesn't rely on grab spam like Luigi. He's perfectly capable of pulling of combos without them as well. Luigi's sliding makes it hard for him to punish, and reeeaally easy for others to punish him. Even if he shields, Luigi slides everywhere. If it wasn't for the sliding, Luigi would definitely be a top pick. ____________________ NNID: GreenThunder1337 3DS FC: 1521 - 5979 - 1511 |
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Normal user Level: 27 Posts: 139/146 EXP: 112019 Next: 4140 Since: 04-13-13 From: Canada, Laval, Quebec Last post: 2846 days ago Last view: 2218 days ago |
Posted by GreenThunder1337 Reminder that just because a character is higher on the tier list does NOT mean that they automatically go even or have an advantage over those below them (in terms of the MU). Saying something like "Dabuz's Rosa lost to Nairo's ZSS" isn't a legit reason to put ZSS over Rosa lol. And not all Sonics do Spin Dash. Sonic has AMAZING mobility to play very well-rounded and do incredible mix-ups and baits. And he has 3 KO THROWs. (B-Throw is obv the best overall, U-Throw and F-Throw KO better depending on position. Also Sonic has some nasty Spring > Uair setups on T&C and Duck Hunt. =P Fox may have a gimpable recovery, yes, but he still has good tools and mobility to fight the cast and has an AMAZING punish game. Also he may have lost the infi-Jab, BUT he can still use it very well as a rushdown/GTFO option AND can do Jab 1 + 2 > U-Smash. Just b/c a character has a gimp move on him does not necessarily mean he loses the MU lol. ROB and Ganon can Dair Ness out of PKT2, does it mean Ness loses? Not exactly. I really don't know a thing on MK so eh Regarding the Mario Bros, Luigi's damage output IS STILL there, just the KO confirm isn't anymore. He can still put up a good firewall however, AND his frame data is STILL excellent and trades pretty damn well with quick, hard hitting aerials (lol trading with him isn't a good idea). Also the traction isn't always an issue, if anything it's helpful vs Diddy cause his lack of traction will make him slip too far for Diddy to follow up if he trips on a naner. =P == Also idk if you saw but before the Corrin/Bayo patch (1.1.3) there WAS an official tier list established here. ____________________ Yo-YO, let's GO! The PSI Prodigy! (SSB4 Ness Combo Video!) |
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Fuzzy Good riddance! Level: 55 Posts: 734/785 EXP: 1259600 Next: 54589 Since: 05-05-15 From: secret Last post: 2913 days ago Last view: 2304 days ago |
Posted by Timmy ...aaaand it says 1. Sheik, 2. ZSS, 3. Rosa Point stands? Sorry, I just have like zero faith in RosaLuma after patch 1.0.8. Not that even Dabuz doesn't camp and spam anyways. And as an ex-main myself, I definitely noticed the changes. They were devastating. ____________________ NNID: GreenThunder1337 3DS FC: 1521 - 5979 - 1511 |
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Fuzzy Good riddance! Level: 55 Posts: 747/785 EXP: 1259600 Next: 54589 Since: 05-05-15 From: secret Last post: 2913 days ago Last view: 2304 days ago |
So, new patch, new meta.
More "fun", as Sakurai puts it. New list in the first post ____________________ NNID: GreenThunder1337 3DS FC: 1521 - 5979 - 1511 |
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