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![]() Shyguy Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 61/97 EXP: 52429 Next: 5921 Since: 12-21-16 From: Northwest Arkansas Last post: 39 days ago Last view: 39 days ago |
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![]() Shyguy Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 67/97 EXP: 52429 Next: 5921 Since: 12-21-16 From: Northwest Arkansas Last post: 39 days ago Last view: 39 days ago |
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![]() Shyguy Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 68/97 EXP: 52429 Next: 5921 Since: 12-21-16 From: Northwest Arkansas Last post: 39 days ago Last view: 39 days ago |
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![]() Shyguy Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 69/97 EXP: 52429 Next: 5921 Since: 12-21-16 From: Northwest Arkansas Last post: 39 days ago Last view: 39 days ago |
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![]() Shyguy Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 70/97 EXP: 52429 Next: 5921 Since: 12-21-16 From: Northwest Arkansas Last post: 39 days ago Last view: 39 days ago |
NOTICE: This not a bash of Windows 10, nor do I hate it. I like it. I just don't like how slow it can become after a while on 4GB ram computers. This leads me to believe 10 is not really supported on that kind of ram. I did what I described here, and love it! Heck, I'm using it right now. Installing Windows 7 allowed me to give a 4 year old buggy HP laptop a new life. There are some issues this didn't fix, but I can fix those by buying genuine HP spare parts.
Introduction and the Procedure: If you have a Windows 10 laptop with only 4GB of ram, here's why you should stop using it and downgrade to either Windows 7 or 8.1 (7 may be faster than 8.1, who knows). Let's be real, Windows 10 will run with 4GB of ran no problem, when you first got the computer. Now, stack up all the updates released every month and the big updates every 6 months. That eats up a lot of disk space, and can even consume your ram, plus more if something goes wrong (such as the high ram usage from Cortana due to a bug). This can make your computer feel like your running Windows 10 on a 10+ year old computer that only has 1-2GB of ram. This won't do if you're using the computer for everyday purposes. Now note, you won't have this issue on an 8GB+ ram laptop, those will run fine, this is just for 4GB ram laptops. I will also show you how to install Windows 7/8.1 in place of Windows 10 so you can experience faster speeds. How does downgrading to Windows 7 or 8.1 help make 4GB of ram faster? You are installing an OS that is not prone to major updates with new features every 6 months, plus the OEM software and any additional partitions created alongside 10 will be gone (more on this later). To start, back up anything off of the Windows 10 installation to an external source, such as a USB HDD. After, navigate to Device Manager, and make note of the manufacturer of all the drivers there. Most will be fine, but since Windows 7/8.1 is most likely unsupported, you won't have things such as intel graphics, wi-fi, and ethernet out of the box, and your computer manufacturer will probably not have a drivers page for 7/8.1 for your computer, so you'll need to search for them with google. Once you get wi-fi or ethernet working, you can then use Windows update to update the rest of your drivers for you. If it cannot find anything, then google for a windows 7 version of the same driver that was listed in 10's device manager. Once done, using either a CD or USB (I recommend you use a USB 8 GB or higher), load your windows media. If you don't have media, then using a burning software such as imgburn for DVD's or Rufus for USB's, burn the installation media for 7 or 8.1 to it (default settings should work. On Rufus, there will be an option to switch between MBR and UEFI, make sure UEFI is selected since that's what Windows 10 uses. After that, there is one more thing to take care of. This doesn't apply to Windows 8.1, only Windows 7, and I believe it only happens when running from USB. When you try to run the Windows 7 installation, it will tell you that it needs a required DVD driver, despite the fact we aren't even using that. This error stems from Windows 7 not having USB 3.0 support out of the box (and switching the port will most likely not help at this point). To fix this, follow everything in this YouTube video, especially the link in the description. This will take some time, but once it is done, we can officially start rocking and rolling. Also, Windows 10 will probably say the device malfunctioned since the last time you used it. Don't worry about it and just simply unplug the USB and plug it into a blue USB 3.0 port. Open up the Metro settings and go to update and security. Go to the recovery section and choose the option that takes allows you to enter settings such as your BIOS. Once the options screen shows up, choose the BIOS option (the one that allows you to enter the BIOS). Your computer will restart, once it powers back on, immediately hit the key that enters your BIOS (such as Del or F2), keep hitting it until the BIOS pops up. Once it does, navigate to the boot tab and disable secure boot and enable legacy boot. Also, rearrange the boot order so the USB, and not Windows 10 boots first. Once done, exit and whatever windows version you chose should be loading. Navigate through Step 1 normally. When you reach the hard drive manager, delete everything there so there is only unallocated space listed. We do not want the OEM software or any other parttion related to 10. We want to be able to take advantage of the full hard drive space. Don't worry, deleting these extra drives won't harm your computer or your ability to get into the BIOS. These were just extra drives to support the Windows 10 installation. Click the unallocated space once and then click next. After the files are copied, expanded, etc, it will reboot, and we will go back into the bios. Back in, go back to boot and change the boot order so the hard drive boots first rather than the USB (but leave that inserted). Exit, and the rest of Windows will install. Do it normally, and Windows will eventually load. Once you are in Windows, get all the drivers installed, as mentioned previously. Once done, check for updates. For Windows 7, make sure to plan accordingly, you'll probably have almost 200 updates at once. This will take probably a good 4 hours, give or take a few. For Windows 8.1, I do not know how many updates that needs, it has never pestered me to update. Once drivers are installed and the big update is done, you can then customize Windows how you'd like as it means you are done. You should notice a speed increase almost immediately, and certain Steam games such as Bloons TD 5 should run better than they did under a laggy Windows 10 install. |
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![]() Shyguy Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 71/97 EXP: 52429 Next: 5921 Since: 12-21-16 From: Northwest Arkansas Last post: 39 days ago Last view: 39 days ago |
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![]() Shyguy Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 79/97 EXP: 52429 Next: 5921 Since: 12-21-16 From: Northwest Arkansas Last post: 39 days ago Last view: 39 days ago |
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![]() Shyguy Normal user Level: 22 Posts: 80/97 EXP: 52429 Next: 5921 Since: 12-21-16 From: Northwest Arkansas Last post: 39 days ago Last view: 39 days ago |
Anyone here still use Windows 7? I have an HP with it installed, but I stopped using it as the laptop is very poor. The mouse is very jumpy, the battery is toast, and internet only works with Ethernet, so I may as well transplant its components into a desktop case since I have to treat it like that. The laptop actually is a tri-boot of Windows Vista, 7, and 8.1. I've mentioned this laptop before, but am not sure if I mentioned the year I got it, which was 2015. I could not use USB to install Vista, so I had to use DVD (lucky that I had a 64bit Vista disk).
I did however, find a used Dell Windows 7 laptop on ebay for very cheap (around $65), which will replace the HP. I am going to use this Dell for my Nintendo Homebrew excursions and everything else that is not related to my school work. I am currently doing my homebrew stuff on my new laptop, but that should change later this week when the "new" laptop is dropped off from USPS. More than likely after getting it, I will be ripping the bad boy open to see what components are inside of it, namely Hard Drive type as I have a spare 500GB, and want to see if that would fit in. This would be temp as I may invest in an SSD around Christmas (Your suggestions on cheap SSD's are greatly appreciated), battery type, and to see if it needs any cleaning (I.E. Dust). The laptop comes with Windows 7, but I am going to wipe it and replace it with... Windows 7, BUT, the Ultimate edition since I have an ISO, and a way to activate it, plus, it's the highest SKU of 7 available that comes with the home premium stuff as well as the educational and professional stuff. This is what I used on the HP, plus it helped me with a whole week of school work dedicated to Windows 7 (I'm not kidding. Week 4 focused on Windows 7, 5 on Windows 8.1, and 6 on Linux, namely Ubuntu) since I did not need to use the school-provided ISO in an insanely slow virtual machine. Well, that sums that up. As I asked at the beginning, anyone still using Windows 7, whether it be on actual hardware or a virtual machine? Do you like it? What do you use it for? P.S. If you are installing Windows 7 directly to a USB a la Windows ToGo with Hasleo WinToUSB on a computer that officially supports 7 as well as USB 3.0, do not install the 3.0 drivers after installing Windows 7. Upon reboot, the external HDD will not be "detected", and you'll have to reinstall due to a Blue Screen of Death 0x07b error. |
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