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Posted on 01-23-17 12:03 PM, in Kuribo64 Town Square Link | #81058
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Posted by LeftyGreenMario
I do think a lot of the marchers are Hillary supporters, but they seem less distant to me compared to Trump supporters. A little. But I feel Hillary supporters overlook a lot of things about who they're actually supporting, but it's nice to at least want a woman for president for once. Of course, I value what people say than what people ARE.


A woman president should be icing on top of a president who's actually good. Many of Hillary's supporters were willing to overlook Hillary's major flaws because she was a woman.

Eh, I can't see why I'd hate Hillary more. I don't trust her and I still don't see how Hillary can be just as bad. Of course, Trump is a buffoon and an incompetent one. But even if Hillary is sneaky and can potentially manipulate whatever, we're going to have Putin pretty much using Trump. Either way, we're screwed.


There are potential reasons to oppose Trump more, but how is the Russia fearmongering a valid reason? Even if it were true that Trump was a puppet, and there is no actual evidence of this, US foreign policy interests are not worth protecting. On that issue, Putin has proven himself to be the adult in the room compared to our leaders.

Goldman Sachs always won! Even when Obama was elected! Obama bombed, chose to rescue banks, extended government surveillance, and more!

Either vote is a vote for Goldman!


Exactly what I've been saying. And the fact that a Democratic president can act this way without serious opposition from those calling themselves progressives is dangerous. That's the advantage of having Trump, even if one does consider him worse. Democrats will actually be able to muster up opposition.

The whole e-mail thing is a concern, but I feel the WikiLeaks just has an axe to grind in the recent times. So there's that.


If true, that still wouldn't change the legitimacy of the emails. And Wikileaks, if anything, has an axe to grind against government corruption, which Hillary just happens to exemplify.

I think Hillary's policies sound bad, but they don't specifically target woman as explicitly as Trump's policies (abortions, Planned Parenthood <- that's really bad). The foreign policy crap sounds bad but it's hard to judge that if the indirect consequence is worse than blatantly defunding Planned Parenthood and restricting abortion access. Very hard.


It may be hard to determine who's worse, but it should be clear that they're both very bad. Enthusiastic Hillary supporters who claim to be for women's rights are uninformed or hypocrites.

And "deep as a lake"... Trump has a truckload of crap and corrupt cabinet members. I don't think Hillary can top that.


She could easily top it. There may not be racists, but it would be just as filled with corporatists and contain more establishment neocons.

Posted by Yami
Really?
Show it!


Exit poll discrepancies, the same measure to show that Hillary won the primaries fraudulently, show that Trump won fraudulently too: http://tdmsresearch.com/2016/11/10/2016-presidential-election-table/ There's more evidence, but this is the starting point.

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Posted on 01-26-17 02:30 PM, in Shit's going down in USA (and everywhere else too) Link | #81103
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Posted by Yami
At the very least, it's good to see that Trump actually keeps his promises.
Any actual politician makes promises just to win elections, and then immediately discards them once elected.


Well, he didn't keep his promise to drain the swamp, given all the corporatists and generals intended for his cabinet.

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Posted on 02-07-17 02:01 PM, in Kuribo64 Town Square Link | #81284
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Posted by LeftyGreenMario
she won't belittle her opponents as "fake news"


That's exactly what she would do. "Fake news" was mainly pushed by liberal-leaning groups and media organizations to discredit opposing political opinions, until it was smartly co-opted by progressives and Trump supporters.

or personally attack their credentials


Bernie supporters were relentlessly attacked and smeared with names like "Bernie Bros". Trump supporters got the same treatment, including being called "deplorable". I wouldn't put that past her either.

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Posted on 02-11-17 12:18 AM, in Kuribo64 Town Square Link | #81322
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Posted by LeftyGreenMario
What WAS categorized as fake news by the liberal-leaning groups anyway?

If they're categorizing Fox as fake news, then they're wrong. It's just that Fox lie and distort, but they don't totally make crap up.


There were some legitimate fake news outlets, mixed in with progressive and anti-war sources.

As for "Bernie Bros." and "deplorables", those are personal attacks, but they aren't attacks on credentials like John Lewis and that judge who was called "so-called". I don't condone personal attacks, but those particular attacks on big figures is bad, bad, bad.


Well, I also recall Hillary insinuating Bernie was unqualified to be president, along with a chorus of liberal media voices. And speaking of John Lewis and impugning credibility, he lied about Bernie's civil rights record in order to boost Hillary. So the liberals have a big problem too.

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Posted on 02-26-17 10:01 PM, in Shit's going down in USA (and everywhere else too) Link | #81603
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Posted on 03-03-17 11:15 PM, in Just stop trying, Google Link | #81707
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Posted on 03-04-17 12:24 AM, in Just stop trying, Google Link | #81710
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Posted on 03-07-17 08:58 PM, in Just stop trying, Google Link | #81828
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Last view: 592 days ago 		I wouldn't put too much blame on Obama. The CIA has been part of an unaccountable shadow government ever since its inception. And attempts by government officials to rein it in usually end with failure or death.

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Posted on 03-08-17 12:54 PM, in Just stop trying, Google Link | #81837
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Last view: 592 days ago 		My point is that no president has successfully reigned in the CIA. Of course Obama shouldn't have allowed this to happen, but there's nothing special about Obama. Any other president in a position to be elected would have let it happen too.

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Posted on 03-26-17 03:17 AM, in Shit's going down in USA (and everywhere else too) Link | #82139
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Last view: 592 days ago 		This healthcare drama might be political theater to make people glad the ACA (largely a handout to insurance companies) wasn't repealed and lose interest in real universal healthcare through single-payer.

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Posted on 03-28-17 11:43 PM, in Shit's going down in USA (and everywhere else too) Link | #82187
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Last view: 592 days ago 		What's notable is that rather than addressing awful policies like this, the establishment opposition to Trump is focusing on the ridiculous Russia fearmongering. That shows you where the actual priorities of the Democratic Party, media, and intelligence community lie. They support almost all of what Trump is pushing through, and would rather that we fixate on a foreign boogeyman.

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Posted on 03-30-17 03:25 AM, in Shit's going down in USA (and everywhere else too) Link | #82203
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Posted by LeftyGreenMario
lol China


Well, that's Trump's favored foreign scapegoat. But Russia is what's being used by the traditional establishment to smear Trump with.

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Posted on 04-07-17 02:19 PM, in Shit's going down in USA (and everywhere else too) Link | #82386
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Last view: 592 days ago 		Unsurprisingly, Trump has proven himself to be yet another deep state puppet by launching a missile attack against Syria. The attack was in response to Syria's purported chemical weapons attack on civilians, which has not been proven to have been done by the Assad government at all. In fact, the last time the US blamed a chemical attack on Assad, it turned out to be false. Neocons in both parties, who formerly opposed Trump for being too soft, have been commending his decision.
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