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Choose your idiot.
Pokémon Clinton
0.0% (0)
Pokémon Trump
37.0% (10)
Both, I'm a collector
7.4% (2)
None, they're both crazy
55.6% (15)
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Jesse
Posted on 06-30-16 10:17 AM Link | #72556
If you're from a migrant family which came into the us by following the system, you should totally support Trump.

Lunarius
Posted on 06-30-16 07:06 PM Link | #72593
What I hate about Americans nowadays is that they don't care about undocumented immigrants and believe any stereotypical idea that comes to mind. Seriously, these statements are just stupid. Idea #1 and Idea #4 are most commonly said by anti-immigrants and don't realize it's bullshit.




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fiver
Posted on 06-30-16 07:17 PM Link | #72598
#2 is correct in some cases. the reason #1 is bullcrap is because some illegals don't bother getting a job and just live off of taxpayer dollars because the government is known to be too sympathetic.

Also, note I am saying 'some'; I'm not saying "all illegals are bs now get the fuck out", I'm more saying "there are way better ways to do this, some idiots are abusing the system"

Take Syrian refugees for example. They were let in to Europe, and let's see. Apparently, the Paris attacks were pulled by.. Syrian refugees. Again, not saying "all syrian refugees are assholes who are a part of ISIS", it's just that the world can't really afford any of this crap going on anymore.

It's a bad situation. You can't trust people nowadays.

Lunarius
Posted on 06-30-16 07:28 PM Link | #72604
Posted by Bantten
The reason #1 is bullcrap is because some illegals don't bother getting a job and just live off of taxpayer dollars because the government is known to be too sympathetic.
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Uh, you do know that in the US, if you are an immigrant without documents, you basically can't get the same privileges as that of a registered citizen?

Undocumented citizens have so many disadvantages like unable to get social security, getting help from the government if they are unemployed or even get a title change on a recently bought car. I couldn't get my first phone until I was 18 because before then, I couldn't pay it myself, my parents couldn't pay it for me since they didn't have social security (which was required to enter into a contract), and we didn't have the funds to keep paying it, much less the huge ass fees they charge you if you miss one payment.




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Mariocrash
Posted on 06-30-16 07:43 PM Link | #72606
Posted by Bantten
Take Syrian refugees for example. They were let in to Europe, and let's see. Apparently, the Paris attacks were pulled by.. Syrian refugees. Again, not saying "all syrian refugees are assholes who are a part of ISIS", it's just that the world can't really afford any of this crap going on anymore.

It's a bad situation. You can't trust people nowadays.


Agreed. As I live there, the government and the authorities are too full of themselves to keep terrorism away from the country while they should already understand other countries got also attacked (take the explosions at the airport in Belgium).

However, young kids and teenagers are much involved with this which is not the case for most people now. I crossed a few Syrian refugees at every train station to get home, I see them very helpless and no one cares one bit, even myself, honestly, cause people know there will more heavy and tense situations about attacking refugees and immigrants over terrorism and radicalization.

fiver
Posted on 06-30-16 07:47 PM (rev. 2 of 06-30-16 07:47 PM) Link | #72608
Also, every one is so mad about the UK leaving the EU because nobody will bail Greece out, but it's their own fault they're in debt. Greece keeps letting the refugees flow and flow, even when they know they can't afford it.

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 06-30-16 11:19 PM Link | #72634
Posted by Banarius
What I hate about Americans nowadays is that they don't care about undocumented immigrants and believe any stereotypical idea that comes to mind. Seriously, these statements are just stupid. Idea #1 and Idea #4 are most commonly said by anti-immigrants and don't realize it's bullshit.

Agreed.

5) is totally ridiculous. This stigma against illegal immigrants have always been historical. We got anti-Irish, anti-Catholic, anti-Chinese, anti-Japanese attitudes when they were immigrants. This anti-Mexican attitude is just a continuation of historical xenophobia.

Anyway, xKitten, you come off as slightly xenophobic to me despite your denials, such as labeling illegal immigrants as a derogatory "illegals" and trying to tie Syrian refugees to the Paris attacks. It breeds tension and I think we should really let victims in, even if the victims are brainwashed to think that harassing women is fine.

fiver
Posted on 07-01-16 12:57 AM (rev. 2 of 07-01-16 12:57 AM) Link | #72655
Posted by BantyGreenMario
I think we should really let victims in, even if the victims are brainwashed to think that harassing women is fine.

I uh

what..? care to explain why, though?

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 07-01-16 02:37 AM Link | #72673
It's what happened in Germany. I believe it took in a lot of Syrian refugees, and I think the incidents of sexual harassment rose. I'm not too sure. I still think the refugees are more victims than perpetrators, though.

fiver
Posted on 07-01-16 03:02 AM Link | #72679
I kinda get where you're coming from, but if a crime rate has risen then it's time to stop letting them just flood in. They also should get proper education immediately after coming over, IMO. (and no, they don't have to pay for it.) Should be a required thing to make sure they're civil.

Lunarius
Posted on 07-01-16 04:06 AM Link | #72706
Posted by Bantten
I kinda get where you're coming from, but if a crime rate has risen then it's time to stop letting them just flood in. They also should get proper education immediately after coming over, IMO. (and no, they don't have to pay for it.) Should be a required thing to make sure they're civil.


Well, I can somewhat contradict that statement. If you are an immigrant, much less one who is undocumented, is very unlikely to increase the crime rate. Why? I'm very sure whoever made the risk of coming to another country without documents wants to stay in that country. You committing a crime when you know you aren't a citizen is like asking to go back to the country you fled from. You don't want to go back. What people say about immigrants causing crime is completely wrong.




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fiver
Posted on 07-01-16 01:49 PM (rev. 2 of 07-01-16 01:49 PM) Link | #72726
Well, then there's also that person who was deported 5 times and kept coming back and brutally murdered a person in the park.

Stuff like that is why people are worried, since he somehow got over 5 times.
And yes, he was deported for doing crimes. :P

Marionumber1
Posted on 07-17-16 05:06 PM Link | #73756
Posted by NintendoFan
I'm not voting for either of them tbh, Bernie was pretty much the only good guy and now it's not very likely he's gonna win


It's quite likely that Bernie actually did win, even though the official vote doesn't reflect that. There are a couple reasons to suspect this:

* Exit polls, samples of people as they leave their voting locations, have been wildly off. Clinton nearly always does better in the official results than the exit polls. The probability of this happening by chance is virtually 0%. So either the polls are biased against her, which has been debunked, or the official results are biased towards her.

* Insecure voting machines manage almost all of the vote counting in the US. The vendor can put malicious software on them, or they can be rigged by the numerous people with access which includes government officials, citizen poll workers, private contractors, and hackers.

* An audit in Chicago actually proved that the voting machines were giving the wrong results. Some voting machines print out a paper record that you can count by hand, so some places will count the ballots by hand to verify that the voting machines were accurate. When this happened in Chicago, the hand count showed Bernie winning when the machine showed he lost. Then the election officials covered it up.
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