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Agent000 |
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Member mah kitty Level: 74 Posts: 1148/1426 EXP: 3535654 Next: 117890 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 2321 days ago Last view: 885 days ago |
On the IRC just now, we were talking about what to do with the story. All we've really figured out is that Bowser wants to produce something called "gravigen" (the name is self-explanatory) and that he goes to the edge of the universe. As of yet there has not been any real link or explanation for this or any other part of the story.
However, while derping around on the IRC I stumbled across this: This. tl;dr version: "Astronomers have found that whole clusters of galaxies are moving in convoy towards a single point in the sky. This unexpected motion appears to be separate from the expansion of the universe and the researchers even suggest that a force beyond the visible universe is the culprit. The discovery has been named Dark Flow." Now, this is just a theory and has not been proven. The actual cause could be this Dark Flow idea, it could be the influence of another universe, or this might all be misinterpreted data. But this is Mario so nobody cares. The point is, this is something that makes sense that perfectly links crazy gravity with the edge of the universe. So here's my basic idea: There is mysterious stuff called gravigen at the edge of the universe that causes the universe's expansion and eventual contraction. Bowser goes to the edge of the universe with the intent of harnessing gravigen to control the universe for his evil deeds. And...that's about it. A Mario game doesn't need a super-complex story, just a basic idea of what Bowser is trying to do. As usual, he kidnaps Peach with the hope that she'll rule the universe with him and as usual Mario must pursue the big tortoise and put a stop to his plans. As an added bonus, this gravigen idea gives a reason for any unnatural gravity encountered in the game. I know that NWP is on board with this kind of idea (he's the one who told me to post this .___o). Everyone else, thoughts? ____________________ |AgentSplaturn| if someone uses an external hard disk to store porn on |AgentSplaturn| is it their sex drive? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |skyluigi| agent that's one of the best quotes I've ever seen on this IRC |
SquidEmpress |
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Faking your suicide is a terrible thing to do. Get out. Level: 100 Posts: 2451/2912 EXP: 10066821 Next: 287575 Since: 01-30-13 Last post: 3199 days ago Last view: 3198 days ago |
My idea would be expand on the size on the Grand World Map in SMG2. Worlds 2, 3, and 4 are placed on the right side of rings.
Posted by MarioWiki SMG2.5's plot and Grand World Map would reveal the rest of those rings. This is not necessarily an extremely huge story. The purpose of the larger Grand World Map ties in with Bowser obtaining and using gravigen in the newly-dominated galaxies, which are the galaxies in Super Mario Galaxy 2.5. ____________________ Super Mario LOLand Thanks to kaj for helping to port my Acmlmboard 2.5 layout to Acmlmboard 2.064! |
Agent000 |
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Member mah kitty Level: 74 Posts: 1149/1426 EXP: 3535654 Next: 117890 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 2321 days ago Last view: 885 days ago |
Yeah but that doesn't explain why Bowser goes to the edge of the universe or anything about gravigen, and is kind of an underwhelming setup IMO. Also tying the world map directly into the story feels forced and would require some strange dialogue to explain. ____________________ |AgentSplaturn| if someone uses an external hard disk to store porn on |AgentSplaturn| is it their sex drive? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |skyluigi| agent that's one of the best quotes I've ever seen on this IRC |
Tahcryon |
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Embodiment of Time Can someone lead me to a non-capitalist clothing store? Level: 128 Posts: 3749/5087 EXP: 23823846 Next: 557854 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 2206 days ago Last view: 768 days ago |
Hm, seems like a good idea. I'm on board with it. ____________________
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gc |
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Member Normal user Level: 55 Posts: 700/721 EXP: 1246804 Next: 67385 Since: 12-18-12 Last post: 3779 days ago Last view: 3739 days ago |
Hmm. That's pretty neat and convenient.
Instead of gravigen at the edge, how about it being inside every planet. Explains the gravity that shouldn't be there. Wait, Gravigen Generator is all about Bowser extracting it from planets, isn't it...? Let's say he's trying to make a new universe but he's trashing the place in the extraction process. ____________________ Burrow Base design- Text complete. I might try my hand at some art...maybe...eventually...? Bullet Base design- Final Frontier- (collab) There's always a light at the end of the tunnel. Of course, it's usually an oncoming express train. Slow and steady gets you trampled by the other guys. |
Luigi#1 |
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Member Wow k Level: 48 Posts: 443/535 EXP: 790713 Next: 32830 Since: 02-21-13 From: Gallifrey Last post: 684 days ago Last view: 677 days ago |
Isn't it obvious! Peach gets kidnapped!
Seriously though, if you can explain why Bowser wants a new universe I'm on board. ____________________ Jesus why was I here |
Agent000 |
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Member mah kitty Level: 74 Posts: 1150/1426 EXP: 3535654 Next: 117890 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 2321 days ago Last view: 885 days ago |
Oh that's a good idea. He wants to go to the edge so that he can use graviton to create a new universe to rule (with Peach ) ____________________ |AgentSplaturn| if someone uses an external hard disk to store porn on |AgentSplaturn| is it their sex drive? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |skyluigi| agent that's one of the best quotes I've ever seen on this IRC |
MarioMaster720 |
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Member Some fraud Number 6738 Embodiment of Space Level: 85 Posts: 1537/2007 EXP: 5807038 Next: 91502 Since: 11-24-12 From: Rogaland, Norway Last post: 2902 days ago Last view: 2875 days ago |
Posted by Luigi#1 Uhh why did he want a New Universe in the first SMG? or why does he want to take over the world in the RPG games? We don't need an exact reason why. It's typical villain-stuff, since there's no villain in gaming who wouldn't want to take over or destroy the world if he/she had the chance to ____________________ Former SMG2.5 Advertiser and one-time Level Designer/Artist - So Apparently Norway is rich while Denmark and Sweden are happy. What they don't know is that our wealth gives us happiness as well : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfA4EbJCEAAsJfG.png:large |
SquidEmpress |
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Faking your suicide is a terrible thing to do. Get out. Level: 100 Posts: 2453/2912 EXP: 10066821 Next: 287575 Since: 01-30-13 Last post: 3199 days ago Last view: 3198 days ago |
Posted by Agent000 Actually, the world map is simply implied with gc's idea so that there is not a big story about the map. Your plot idea can go with gc's idea, and Bowser obtains gravigen from the galaxies, especially Gravigen Extractor. Edge of The Universe is the center of Bowser's new universe that he is creating. So to wrap it up, the edge of the universe is becoming the center of Bowser's new universe that he is creating with the power of gravigen. ____________________ Super Mario LOLand Thanks to kaj for helping to port my Acmlmboard 2.5 layout to Acmlmboard 2.064! |
Agent000 |
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Member mah kitty Level: 74 Posts: 1152/1426 EXP: 3535654 Next: 117890 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 2321 days ago Last view: 885 days ago |
Almost. He's going to the edge of the universe to EXIT the universe and create a new one outside it. The final level is Mario crossing over into Bowser's created universe. ____________________ |AgentSplaturn| if someone uses an external hard disk to store porn on |AgentSplaturn| is it their sex drive? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |skyluigi| agent that's one of the best quotes I've ever seen on this IRC |
NWPlayer123 |
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Member Imma Snuggle You Level: 110 Posts: 2791/3604 EXP: 14206611 Next: 202275 Since: 07-07-12 From: Colorado Last post: 3103 days ago Last view: 1260 days ago |
Posted by Agent000 Oh, well if you put it THAT way, that brings up a ton of stuff we can do. Since nothing has ever been canonized of that, we can do a lot of amazing stuff with his dimension. ____________________ "I hate playing musical chats" ~ Quote of the month |
Tahcryon |
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Embodiment of Time Can someone lead me to a non-capitalist clothing store? Level: 128 Posts: 3750/5087 EXP: 23823846 Next: 557854 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 2206 days ago Last view: 768 days ago |
Well, to be honest, I never thought he was making a new universe. I just thought he was making a 'layer' above the one that currently exists. Hmm. ____________________
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Agent000 |
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Member mah kitty Level: 74 Posts: 1153/1426 EXP: 3535654 Next: 117890 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 2321 days ago Last view: 885 days ago |
That's effectively the same thing. The point is he's creating a completely new place to rule instead of trying to rule the universe he's failed so many times to conquer. ____________________ |AgentSplaturn| if someone uses an external hard disk to store porn on |AgentSplaturn| is it their sex drive? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |skyluigi| agent that's one of the best quotes I've ever seen on this IRC |
LordFalcon |
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Seven of Diamonds Level: 14 Posts: 25/30 EXP: 10584 Next: 2487 Since: 12-16-12 From: Titan, Saturn Last post: 1341 days ago Last view: 1341 days ago |
Given that Bowser will be granted full control of the new universe, then the sole reason Peach was kidnapped was to actually lure Mario into the new realm, in the hopes he could be trapped, and thus granting Bowser a lifetime of vengeance. In case Bowser needs another reason to gather the Power Stars other than getting big, since his priority now is the gravigen, it could be that the Stars' energy can partly counter its effect, which makes it easier to manipulate, at the same time it prevents even Bowser and his minions from being crushed by the massive amount of matter which was gathered. |
Pixel Fire |
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Member Normal user Level: 12 Posts: 16/22 EXP: 6349 Next: 1572 Since: 12-14-13 Last post: 3738 days ago Last view: 3591 days ago |
So maybe the galaxies in world 7 should all be created by Bowser... |
Dodecagon |
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Normal user Level: 42 Posts: 310/411 EXP: 520063 Next: 1299 Since: 08-27-13 Last post: 3199 days ago Last view: 2823 days ago |
I just want to know why we even need a story in the first place. We're making a hack for a Mario game, and a main series one at that. Too much story could turn people away from SMG2.5, I certainly hated when they did it in Super Paper Mario. |
Marionumber1 |
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Wii U hacker Level: 55 Posts: 298/709 EXP: 1239587 Next: 74602 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 2218 days ago Last view: 594 days ago |
Posted by GrapeEscape I really liked Super Paper Mario's story, but I agree that a game like this shouldn't really have one. Stories belong in the RPG games, not the platformers. |
NWPlayer123 |
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Member Imma Snuggle You Level: 110 Posts: 2963/3604 EXP: 14206611 Next: 202275 Since: 07-07-12 From: Colorado Last post: 3103 days ago Last view: 1260 days ago |
____________________ "I hate playing musical chats" ~ Quote of the month |
NoSkinnedKoopa |
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Member "The most intense fight a human will ever have is between the person they are and the person they are capable of becoming!" - Coach Jae Level: 43 Posts: 302/421 EXP: 555935 Next: 9111 Since: 12-24-12 From: Super Hyrule Land Last post: 2810 days ago Last view: 2082 days ago |
Posted by NWPlayer123 Well just to add, a alternate Mario could work IMO, as an NPC who gives Mario advice like The Chimp, he doesn't have to be SUPER involved, he could just appear a few times just for advice or a chat while Mario launches among the planets through his adventure. |
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