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cosmological
Posted on 11-27-13 09:07 PM Link | #35402
Hello guys.

First off, sorry for not being able to be here as much as I would have liked, school is being really difficult right now. From what I see though we have reached a completely unmotivated state. So we need to get up and do something about it and what else drives progress more than hard work on a trailer. It has been over a year since our last trailer and we haven’t done much since then and I want to change that.

First on the list; getting out of our slump. We need to forget about the past. We shouldn’t care about the lack of progress for a long time but instead we need to think about the work to do now and in the future. I don’t want to hear anyone complaining about why people haven’t been doing stuff, instead use that time to do stuff yourself. I don’t want any arguing about who’s going to do what. We will all get assigned stuff for our future endeavors.

Step two: working as a team. Right now there is not much teamwork. We are called the SMG2.5 Team for a reason, so let’s show them that we can. From now on we must work as a team. My plan for teamwork is to have a focus galaxy, with all able members working on it. This way instead of working on multiple galaxies on our own and never finishing anything we will push each other until the galaxy is done, then we can move on. This will require a lot of cooperation I know not all of you have, but in order for this project to succeed we need to do this. I’ll outline this process later on in the post.

Step Three expanding the project. Right now our team is very small, which results in little progress. What’s the best way to get out there? A trailer of course! If you’ve been on the IRC recently you will have seen all the bickering about having a new trailer. We also need to be nice to any new members that join. No scaring away members who want to help, even if they appear derpy at first. I’ll outline the trailer soon as well.


Focus Galaxy System:
This system will work by assigning the whole group to focus on one galaxy in specific. No working on other galaxies (sorry to be harsh). Everyone here is good at something and everyone has a different schedule. So be getting the whole group together we will be able to have nearly constant progress on the galaxy at hand even if a member is busy. This will require lots of cooperation I know. We all want to claim something for ourselves and let no one else touch it, but this system breaks down when that person becomes unmotivated or busy. We need to be open to letting others help us in design model or create the given galaxy. By having the whole team work on a galaxy will let us finish the galaxies quicker. Also when we complete something we all feel good, so once we finish the galaxy quickly we’ll be motivated to do the next galaxy just as fast.
The system will work in a way like this. I will make a thread telling what the current focus galaxy is and who is in the group responsible for making it. We will have something like a google doc about the specific galaxy. The people who just want to throw in ideas can do it on the threads or in the document itself. Then designers like me, polari and NWP can work on making the full design. Once we are all happy with the design we can move on to the drawings. There people like me and Agent can divide up the drawings. Once that’s done we can make the drawings into models. Then it goes to texturing (we really want more of these people). And at the same time the models can go to the level creators so they can make the creation because they do not need the final textures to complete. Once the texture are done the creators can plop the new models right into the creation and then that galaxy is done.

Any questions PM me or respond on this thread.


Trailer Two:
This will be our first test of the Focus Galaxy system. We have a lot to show off. We have the Ice flower and a good deal of levels to go with it. The problem is nothing is done yet. So we need to get working fast.
Here are the Galaxies I would like to see in the trailer.
Sky High: Almost done, just needs a few more textures and to be fully created
Yoshi’s Island 3: I have made a design, it just needs to be remodeled by me and agent
Gravigen Extractor: I do not have a design for the final planet, which is what we want to show
Toxic Terror: Has a design. Needs some more models and Texturing
Ghostly Graveyard: Has a design and a lot of models
Coastline Cavern Star 2: Has a design. Needs models

I hope that is not too much to ask.

First Focus Galaxy will be Yoshi’s Island 3. Let’s show them what the 2.5 Team can do!


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MK7tester
Posted on 11-27-13 09:10 PM Link | #35403
Nice, also how are we gonna eventually work on coastline if we have very glitchy and almost unusable water? (NO IM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT)

NWPlayer123
Posted on 11-27-13 09:13 PM Link | #35404
Posted by Silver
Nice, also how are we gonna eventually work on coastline if we have very glitchy and almost unusable water? (NO IM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT)

Keyword: STAR 2. NO WATER IN STAR 2.

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Agent000
Posted on 11-27-13 09:14 PM Link | #35405
Just fyi, Ghostly does not have a lot of models, just a bit done on the mansion. None of the other planets are modeled.

Also, if at all possible I think the current focus galaxy and link to the doc/thread/whatever should be easily noticeable and accessible from the main SMG2.5 page on here, not just from searching through some board. And that said, where is this Focus Galaxy thread/doc going to be?

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Arisotura
Posted on 11-27-13 09:21 PM Link | #35406
I was going to say, this is the 15th motivational speech or so, but hey there's something unique in there.

I hope the focus galaxy system will end up giving positive results. I'm all for it and will do everything needed to enforce it. (no this doesn't mean you must start screaming and running around in circles)

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Agent000
Posted on 11-27-13 09:24 PM Link | #35407
lol sorry MM my avatar is already running around in circles :3

But seriously I'm glad to see you support this!

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MK7tester
Posted on 11-27-13 09:28 PM Link | #35408
Posted by NWPlayer123
Posted by Silver
Nice, also how are we gonna eventually work on coastline if we have very glitchy and almost unusable water? (NO IM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT)

Keyword: STAR 2. NO WATER IN STAR 2.


So Mario walks around a Dry Island? Sounds fun -.-

NWPlayer123
Posted on 11-27-13 09:33 PM (rev. 2 of 11-27-13 09:34 PM) Link | #35409
Posted by cosmological
Coastline Cavern Star 2: Has a design. Needs models

Also, if you'd actually read designs you'd know it actually ties in really well. But I digress, that's not what this thread is about.
YI3 shouldn't take too long since cosmo said on the IRC that the design is finished, he just doesn't have a way to upload it.

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MarioMaster720
Posted on 11-27-13 09:41 PM Link | #35410
Well this was a nice speech and all. The Focus Galaxy idea (Now I want to see a galaxy names "First Focus Galaxy" to be made XD) sounds good and will HOPEFULLY give results.

However then again this could lead to some possible issues IMO. If everyone has to work on ONE galaxy only and no other thing until it's |00% finished, then imagine this:

We follow the plan and get a design and art completely done for a galaxy. You yourself said that we have too few texturers and modelers, so basically what should the idea-givers, designers, artists and other people do while the texturers texture and modelers model. Basically the 3/4 of the team would be stuck doing nothing while waiting for the texturers and modelers to finish and thus for the galaxy to be completed. Maybe make a list of galaxies that needs to be done in a order. Basically after a designer is finished with his job on one galaxy, they look at the list and start designing the second one.

Now you may say "but this will be just like before: people going around designing whatever they want". No, since ALL the designers are working together. After the designers are finished with one galaxy they can move on to another one while the texturers, modelers and creators finish the first one. Then after that they move on to finishing the second galaxy the designers did.

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This was a tiny bit awkward to write, since I dunno if people will understand what I mean (unlikely) or just me not having understood what this is about in the first place (likely). You guys probably intended it to be like this from the start and I just didn't realize it, but I'm still mentioning it just to clear it up. :P

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 11-27-13 09:45 PM Link | #35411
What designers? What artists? That's our problem :P

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 11-27-13 09:47 PM Link | #35412
Will you need a trailer theme? I can compose that right away :P

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 11-27-13 09:48 PM Link | #35413
Posted by mariogalaxythree
Will you need a trailer theme? I can compose that right away :P

I think we've been good for months now TBH :P

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 11-27-13 10:06 PM Link | #35414
I'm gonna rework my old trailer theme with my new instruments. Prepare for EPICNESS

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Agent000
Posted on 11-27-13 11:06 PM Link | #35418
Uh ok, but I'm pretty sure we're using Blaz's music for this particular trailer.

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PaperplateismGuy
Posted on 11-27-13 11:54 PM (rev. 2 of 11-28-13 12:01 AM) Link | #35422
Nice speech, cosmo.(+1) by the way, I can try to help model some of those planets for toxic terror and any galaxies that need mode.

Edit: Someone PM me if they want a planet attempted to be modelled for the second trailer.

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cosmological
Posted on 11-28-13 03:29 PM Link | #35444
Okay, let's answer some questions.

Coastline Cavern Star 2 has many parts without water. I have completed the design but never got around to posting it. Also I would like everyone who is able to try to get water working properly. If we get water working before we start focusing on Coastline Cavern we will be able to show off more of the level. Programmers get on that.

Regarding MM720's concerns. I know what you mean, I even thought of it when I was making the system. I think it allows for the designers/creators to have a break in between galaxies and it also allows them to keep the creators motivated. Also once the designing phase of the level is complete we will vote (or I will be supreme dictator) on the next focus galaxy. That way the designers will be able to start thinking of what they want to do, but nothing official will start until the creators are finished with the current focus galaxy. Another thing I did not mention. If the forum becomes large enough, and we are making enough progress using the focus group system, we will split off into two groups so we can tackle two galaxies at once. This will not happen with the project's current size though.

PaperplateismGuy, I haven't seen your models, if you could PM me some. Also if you can make good textures that would be amazing. When we get to Toxic Terror I'll show you what you can do.

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shibboleet
Posted on 11-28-13 03:31 PM Link | #35445
As I said on the irc, this is kinda bad timing for me lol
I'll not be here this weekend, Monday, and a part of next weekend. So I'll try to be on as much as I really can. Because after that, Parade season is over until March.

So I'm good after this is done.

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 11-28-13 05:44 PM Link | #35448
I personally think the music for the trailer should not be something used in-game, but just a theme representing SMG as a whole but with a drumbeat. That old trailer theme of mine could come in handy (with some reworking of coarse)

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 11-28-13 05:45 PM Link | #35449
Posted by mariogalaxythree
I personally think the music for the trailer should not be something used in-game, but just a theme representing SMG as a whole but with a drumbeat. That old trailer theme of mine could come in handy (with some reworking of coarse)

Hence why we're using Radiant Moon :P

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 11-28-13 05:48 PM Link | #35450
I personally think we should save radiant moon for the game itself. If you'd like however, I could add a beat to the song and call it trailer music.

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