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Stygmax

Posted on 09-07-13 01:32 AM

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I just made this on a whim as something I could realistically see as being an SMG hub. No need to go overboard with silly ideas if they're not needed and couldn't realistically even add anything to the experience.

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Posted on 09-07-13 01:33 AM

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No it doesn't. Like one of our original ideas was - Peach's Castle transforming into a space ship. It can easily be a distinct portion that detatches to travel. Let's not limit ourselves because of pointless claims.

What would the story for that be? The toads of Peach's Castle have been secretly developing technology to allow the castle to fly through space? I'm not saying that the Super Mario Galaxy games have never had ridiculous concepts, but the idea itself sounds pretty out there. And before you go on a tangent saying "you're limiting our creative freedom!", I just don't feel like a flying Peach's Castle sounds like something that I would ever actually see in a Mario game.

Well that's why we ditched that idea xD Keyword ORIGINAL idea
TBH Sometimes I think Agent, Glem, and myself are all insane....and that idea proves it xD

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Posted on 09-07-13 05:22 AM (rev. 2 of 09-07-13 05:25 AM)

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The more I play the original SMG, the more I want an observatory. The starship just seems so boring in comparison to such a beautiful comet observatory.

But, the domes probably won't work, so there probably won't be any reason to make it big, but I would like a hub to explore and fly in.

(If someone could get dome-like things to work, that'd make the hub so much better IMO, even if it were just using the domes to access each map.)

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Posted on 09-07-13 04:32 PM

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There isn't really any "makes sense" and "doesn't make sense" in the Mario series if you ask me. SM64's castle had portals to other worlds in the castle's paintings with absolutely no explanation as to why besides that it made for a cool hub mechanic.

On the Peach's Castle in space thing, my spin on it would be to have Peach's Castle as the hub, but it would sort of be a twisted scattering of space debris (think of how the MatterSplatter indoor areas looked). As you complete areas, parts of the castle would be restored allowing you to proceed to other areas.

Concept model:

(this is just a concept model, nothing is to scale and it probably isn't useable as it is.)

The layout would be similar to the Comet Observatory, but it would feel a bit different due to the state of the castle.

On the topic of the domes, I'm reasonably sure that it would not be too hard to take the logic of the control pad from Spaceship Mario and parameterize it with an object_arg to determine which map gets shown when you step on the pad. One reskin later, and you can have multiple pads scattered throughout the hub which take you to different maps of in the game.

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Posted on 09-07-13 04:34 PM

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That is genius. Rather awesome idea, Phantom Wings!

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Posted on 09-07-13 06:44 PM

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Huh, that's interesting! I'm liking the slightly darker feel to it, and the sense of real progress since you're actually repairing the most important building of the Mushroom Kingdom as you go! And it's nice that you went to the trouble of creating a concept model for us

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Posted on 09-07-13 06:50 PM

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Wow... so Mario... yet so cool...

I'm down with this. Maybe we could blend this idea with the additional orbiting planets idea!

I'm thinking of a spacy remix (3 to be exact) of Peach's Castle. ~~NOBODY BUT ME CAN COMPOSE IT!~~

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Posted on 09-07-13 07:10 PM

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Wow... so Mario... yet so cool...

I'm down with this. Maybe we could blend this idea with the additional orbiting planets idea!

I'm thinking of a spacy remix (3 to be exact) of Peach's Castle. ~~NOBODY BUT ME CAN COMPOSE IT!~~

I was thinking of slow piano notes for the first part. Peaceful, yet empty, as the castle is still mostly destroyed.

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Posted on 09-07-13 07:16 PM

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rainblarg, not this castle idea again. This is your home, not some ruined asteroid. Even Starship Mario was cleaned up from an asteroid into something practical by the lumas. I'm completely against it.

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Posted on 09-07-13 07:18 PM

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It will be a ruined castle...

And there can still be a home, but just surrounded by ruin

How about, as you progress, the castleship will be repaired?

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Posted on 09-07-13 07:19 PM

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Repairing =/= making improvements. The Observatory was making improvements through the garage and such, and stuff was being unlocked in that and on starship mario with the toadship and such.

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Posted on 09-07-13 07:34 PM

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We can still make improvements while repairing! I personally think it will be much more rewarding this way.

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Posted on 09-07-13 07:39 PM

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Posted by mariogalaxythree
We can still make improvements while repairing! I personally think it will be much more rewarding this way.

Admittedly, we'd just be restoring Peach's Castle to a hub world that we've already explored twice...

Stygmax

Posted on 09-07-13 10:58 PM

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Part of me loves this and wants it to be the hub.

The other part wishes people liked my drawing and actually bothered to look at the detail.

Status: It was really, really fun, guys - thanks for the ride!

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Posted on 09-07-13 11:06 PM (rev. 3 of 09-08-13 01:18 AM)

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Posted by Stygmax
Part of me loves this and wants it to be the hub.

The other part wishes people liked my drawing and actually bothered to look at the detail.

If I had to be honest, I really liked your hub design o,o I'd take it over what we're discussing any day, and stuff like the toadship and such can be built/upgraded throughout the adventure, like the whole idea should be c:

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Posted on 09-08-13 03:15 AM

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I'm really liking the castle idea. It's very nice and different both from what's been done before and what people are expecting. It's also a lot more atmospheric than any other ideas I've seen.

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Posted on 09-14-13 11:35 PM

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That idea is.....is.....AWESOME!!!!!

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Stygmax

Posted on 09-15-13 01:36 PM

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I've changed my mind about this: I really like Phantom Wing's model for this and the concept sounds pretty solid. I'm voting for this idea now to become the hub.

Status: It was really, really fun, guys - thanks for the ride!

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Posted on 09-15-13 02:23 PM

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I don't know, I'm having my doubts. It shouldn't just be a torn down castle, it needs to have something else to it that just screams "Home"....

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Then add in Mario's house

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