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SquidEmpress
Posted on 02-20-13 09:07 PM Link | #16079
Although I am not a Playstation fan, I decided to make this thread for PS4 discussion. So, talk about the PS4 here!

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Degolegodyl
Posted on 02-20-13 09:22 PM Link | #16080
Yeah... Not really care about the console itself. I just want to know its specs so i can match my new PC with them.

SquidEmpress
Posted on 02-20-13 11:39 PM (rev. 2 of 02-21-13 03:41 AM) Link | #16089
LIVE Stream!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/gamenews.php?id=100573

EDIT: Here is the DualShock 4:

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MarioMaster720
Posted on 02-21-13 02:11 PM Link | #16167
That controller looks pretty good (Dem Joysticks!), but it also seems pretty heavy O_o

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Degolegodyl
Posted on 02-21-13 09:05 PM Link | #16195
I didnt like the controller too much actually.
BTW MARIOMASTER720, IT WASNT A WII U RIP OFF! IN YOUR FACE! told you not to judge by rumors.
Anyway.
The PS4 itself wasnt really showed in the announcement, which i found really ironic.

Agent000
Posted on 03-01-13 11:33 PM Link | #16808
I'm still wondering what anyone would do with that little touchpad on the DualShock 4. It's like the GamePad except...with no screen and a touch sensor 20% as big :P

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Degolegodyl
Posted on 03-02-13 01:15 AM Link | #16813
IKR. Its pretty useless unless you want to play a game that makes you drag or move a screen or even a map.

mariogalaxythree
Posted on 03-02-13 02:06 AM Link | #16815
the PS4 could easily fail. With a steep price point like Sony is used to, the new Xbox will dominate it, and the casual crowd will be looking at Wii U

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Degolegodyl
Posted on 03-02-13 02:54 AM Link | #16819
Haha, yeah nintendo always gets the casual crowd. Oh well.
Well, i dont really care about next gen consoles really, but looking at sales of ps3 and 360, ps3 sold more in europe, and 360 sold more in america. I think this is due to kids in america being more spoiled and actually getting xbox live every month/year to play online, while ps3 users dont have to play a penny to play online.

Anyway, with so many competitors making new consoles and pc making its way back, i dont see a bright future for these consoles. Valve is making steambox, this Ouya is coming out, theres another thing called game stick or somrthing, theres a lot of mobiles games on android, and pc is really taking a lot of ground with free to play games (which i hate) and cheeper games and downloadable games.

SquidEmpress
Posted on 03-02-13 03:13 AM Link | #16822
Posted by Degolegodyl
Haha, yeah nintendo always gets the casual crowd. Oh well.
Well, i dont really care about next gen consoles really, but looking at sales of ps3 and 360, ps3 sold more in europe, and 360 sold more in america. I think this is due to kids in america being more spoiled and actually getting xbox live every month/year to play online, while ps3 users dont have to play a penny to play online.

Anyway, with so many competitors making new consoles and pc making its way back, i dont see a bright future for these consoles. Valve is making steambox, this Ouya is coming out, theres another thing called game stick or somrthing, theres a lot of mobiles games on android, and pc is really taking a lot of ground with free to play games (which i hate) and cheeper games and downloadable games.


The "game stick" I believe is the Oculus Rift, a virtual reality headgear console thingy. Anyways, the touchpad does seem useless. I think the analog sticks or even a mouse would work better. I, however, may be a Nintendo guy for a long time since Mario is ny favorite video game franchise. If the PS4 sells like the Vita, Sony is going to have to improvise by making the PS4 cheaper and adding better software features. But, that is not guaranteed to work out well.

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Stygmax
Posted on 03-02-13 12:15 PM Link | #16835
Posted by Degolegodyl
Haha, yeah nintendo always gets the casual crowd. Oh well.
Well, i dont really care about next gen consoles really, but looking at sales of ps3 and 360, ps3 sold more in europe, and 360 sold more in america. I think this is due to kids in america being more spoiled and actually getting xbox live every month/year to play online, while ps3 users dont have to play a penny to play online.

Anyway, with so many competitors making new consoles and pc making its way back, i dont see a bright future for these consoles. Valve is making steambox, this Ouya is coming out, theres another thing called game stick or somrthing, theres a lot of mobiles games on android, and pc is really taking a lot of ground with free to play games (which i hate) and cheeper games and downloadable games.


TBH, I think the real casual crowd won't be moving at all. They'll stay as those annoying Xbox noobs and once-in-a-while Wii Sports gamers and won't even look at next-gen consoles, because of the price point being so off-putting. The market will become oversaturated and the only consoles to come through will probably be ones like the Ouya because they tie-in with start-up corporations and mobile gamers, giving them additional funds. It'll be easier to program for them as well, and the Ouya will be preferred over the more complex architecture of the Wii U and PS4.

I believe this will begin a new era of video games where gameplay is valued over graphics and quality of the developer's prowess, not the theme or franchise of the game, will be the ultimate selling point.
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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 03-02-13 01:41 PM Link | #16847
We have reached the point that new graphics aren't as breathtaking as they used to be. The N64 was the last time graphics were truly breathtaking.

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Degolegodyl
Posted on 03-02-13 03:34 PM Link | #16851
I gotta say MG3, that is really true. Graphics arent as important as they used to be 2 years ago. Its the gameplay that is the most important. But today i compared Battlefield 3, a 2011 game with in my opinion the best graphics out there (still after more than 1 year), and i compared ps3 version with pc version. On ps3 the game has more glitches, its limited to 24 players instead of 64 on pc, 30fps cap, smaller maps, and least importantly, worse graphics.
See how i stated "least importantly"? Thats because gameplay on these 7 year old consoles is bad too. All the consoles are doing now is dragging the pcs back, and not letting pcs use their full potentials. Current consoles have poor hardware. Thats basically why they are making new ones.

Stygmax, no, the architecture on the ps4 is going to be x86, which is the same as a pc. So it is actually as easy to develop games for a console and a mobile platform. The only difference is that you need a publisher like EA or Ubisoft to publish your game with consoles, since consoles also make money off games. In the other hand, PC and mobile devices have cheaper games because they dont need to publish the games most of the time. For example, Minecraft is $30. If it was on ps3 it would be $60.

HRE: no, i am not reffering to that. I am refering to a device that plugs in your tv and does the same as the ouya but it is smaller.

Stygmax
Posted on 03-03-13 02:08 AM Link | #16908
What I mean is that developers with less coding prowess will be able to develop for it without having to rely on a large publisher due to its simple architecture.
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Degolegodyl
Posted on 03-03-13 02:17 AM Link | #16909
Well it doesnt work that way. The publishers are used for:
Getting more money, for more employees and hardware/software to make a game (maybe this is what you are refering to.
or
Making a game get to a console since consoles only let certain publishers make games for their consoles.

And we need to get something straight. Coding for a PC and a mobile phone (Ouya will have same specs as a mobile phone) is very simple. Coding for PS4 and next xbox will be as simple as a PC because of its architecture (x86). So forget about the coding power. Now the difference is ps3 which DID have a very rare architecture.

Stygmax
Posted on 03-03-13 11:43 AM Link | #16922
Posted by Degolegodyl
Well it doesnt work that way. The publishers are used for:
Getting more money, for more employees and hardware/software to make a game (maybe this is what you are refering to.
or
Making a game get to a console since consoles only let certain publishers make games for their consoles.

And we need to get something straight. Coding for a PC and a mobile phone (Ouya will have same specs as a mobile phone) is very simple. Coding for PS4 and next xbox will be as simple as a PC because of its architecture (x86). So forget about the coding power. Now the difference is ps3 which DID have a very rare architecture.


Ah, I see. I overlooked those aspects.
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LordFalcon
Posted on 03-07-13 05:07 AM (rev. 2 of 03-07-13 05:08 AM) Link | #17149
Possibly a bit like its predecessor, the PS4 might be severely overpriced not necessarily because of its hardware upgrades, but that most hardcore gamers who would want a full-scale "graphical experience" would need to buy (probably OLED) 4K screens. Since neither technologies are popular in the market, the only way out right now would be to get their hands on oversized and expensive TV's, and November 2013 isn't going to change that.

Also, there's also the issue that selling a product worldwide does not necessarily mean equal price tags for everyone. For instance, when the PS3 was released for US$ 600, there were brazilian retailer that had the nerve of selling it for $2000-3000, the same price that could be expected from 42' Plasma/LCD screens by then. Hopefully, if Sony manages to lower the release price, it won't be as unreal as it was on '06. As a comparison, the highest price tag I've seen on a Wii U Deluxe set over here was slightly above $1000, the 3DS XL's average price is $500, and the Vita's highest price tag is $720.

Based on the likelihood of the Xbox "Delta"(Microsoft still hasn't used Dualshock's triangle)'s dev team to have a similar attiude toward graphics, Sony should focus on a solid selection of exclusives, that albeit small, can hold back its competitors until a considerable game list is devised. By the time both "new-gen" consoles are released, the Wii U will, along with the third-party fever game selection, have a couple of fresh remakes as it did on the Wii (Wind Waker, for instance), which should be enough for most regular gamers on short terms. However, even though Smash Bros. might be hitting the last year of development and Monolith Soft is already on a brand new RPG project, among several other projects that will eventually arrive, my greatest concern is the apparent lack of exclusive franchises that have been along with Nintendo for some time. So we've got Zelda, NSMBU, Game and Wario and Smash Bros. Meanwhile, Kid Icarus, a 3D platforming Mario title, Kirby, Metroid, F-Zero, Mario Kart and Star Fox are still missing. And some people might prefer that Sonic doesn't stick to the karts. He doesn't need them, after all.

On this yet uncertain scenario, Sony might still have chances to achieve a preemptive strike on exclusives. They will never win this match if they have to rely simply on the amount of titles available on Day One, as there is neither retro-compatibility for the accounts (all achievements will likely be gone), nor availability of downloaded games from the soon-to-be former PSN.

Degolegodyl
Posted on 03-07-13 12:35 PM Link | #17151
People dont NEED 4k screens to play ps4. IN THE CONTRARY, PS4 will only play movies at 4k. All the games are going to run on 1080p maximum. If you want a real 4k experience, and not 1080p enlarged to 4k, get a PC with a amd radeon 7970 or nvidia gtx 680 or 690. Those graphics cards can run any game at 4k resolutions.

I dont understand why people are so amazed by the new consoles. I mean, there is nothing really special about them. The Wii U might have come out with shitty specs, but at least it was special in its own way (separate screen in controller). That was a really good idea from Nintendo. Now we see the PS4. It will have 8 gigs of ram, not much really. I would have really liked 16 or 32gb. They made a good choice with the processor, 4 dual core amd bulldozers is nice. But the graphics card. Really, i was expecting more. This one seems to be like a 7770 with 2gb of vram. Not impressed.

Since these consoles are not upgradable, and the new consoles are likely to come out in 5-6 years, us PC players will have to wait till a new console for games to get better.

If you heard about the steambox, not the prototype worth $1000. Im talking about the probably $500 one that is expected to be released along side the other consoles. That is a real console. Valve will sell upgradable parts for sreambox, so if you want to play a demanding game, the game doesnt have to go down to meet the console's specs, the console has to go up and meet the game's requirements. That will keep technology running again, and not stay still because of some old hardware like the ones microsoft, sony, and nintendo release.

SquidEmpress
Posted on 03-07-13 09:36 PM Link | #17161
The problem with consoles like the PS4 having upgradable parts is that not everyone knows how to work with the inner hardware of electronics. It would be better if the PS4 had modifiable hardware that can be changed with updates. Sort of like buying cloud storage except on your own console at home instead of a supercomputer in Sony's headquarters. The PS4 console is likely to be big and people would not want to manually mess with the innards of the PS4.

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Degolegodyl
Posted on 03-07-13 09:55 PM Link | #17165
No, the Steam Box will won't require people to change parts manually, and stuff. It is simply unlocking the back, and removing the whole thing and putting another thing. Pretty much would take someone 1 minute. Just unlock, remove, put, lock. Really easy.
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