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Tahcryon
Posted on 01-30-13 08:40 PM Link | #11518
Maybe. I'm not that good at designing Bowser levels, sadly.

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NoSkinnedKoopa
Posted on 01-31-13 05:13 AM Link | #11757
Since Yoshi is gonna be in this galaxy, I was thinking the design should basically be a harder version of Fearsome Fleet on lava.

NWPlayer123
Posted on 01-31-13 05:13 AM (rev. 2 of 01-31-13 05:19 AM) Link | #11759
Since when is Yoshi gonna be in here? O.o
EDIT: Other then the boss, I don't think we're using yoshi. You don't just simply put a random concept into a galaxy without a good reason.

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NoSkinnedKoopa
Posted on 01-31-13 05:22 AM Link | #11763
Hmm, well the level doesn't have to use Yoshi most of the time, but since hes got a double date with Mario and Bowser Jr and Red Megahammer, he should be in included without the boss at least a little.

NWPlayer123
Posted on 01-31-13 05:24 AM (rev. 2 of 01-31-13 05:28 AM) Link | #11765
Posted by Glem3
This should be a sort of galaxy take on the typical "final bowser" world of the classic super mario bros. games... it takes place on bowser's planet, and has many missions, involving his "army", we could have some spaceships, and finally, bowser's castle.

This level mainly serves to provide a classic final level experience, before delving into the more twisted/galaxy experience of "edge of the universe". I think we agreed that at the end of this level, we find a room where peach supposedly was kept-- The final area should be a part of the castle with a cage (which peach was clearly in) that is now wrecked, but with a power star inside it instead. Either a signboard or an NPC can say that Peach was moved.

Of course, a "Sorry Mario, but your Princess is in another Galaxy!" joke is in order here.


Posted by gc
Yes, the edge of the universe should have more of a wasteland feel, with dark matter etc. The army would be stationed here, so spammage of airships, Undergrunt Gunners, Elec/Fire Shooters, spin switches, mechanical doors etc. is in order here. Actually, there shouldn't be too much lava (EotU has enough dark matter to cover that), or bullet bills (Bullet Base/Shrapnel Sandbar will cover that). There should be more of an army feel.
Oh, and the "Sorry Mario, but your princess is in another Galaxy" joke can be put on a signpost, and signed by Bowser Jr .


I totally agree with the dark matter feel, and I don't think Yoshi would fit in all that well....but if you can think of something plausible as a gimmick go right ahead.
We *could* use gravigen here, seeing as it is part of the story with Bowser and such. However, I don't know if we should use it more here or more in EotU

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Tahcryon
Posted on 01-31-13 07:58 AM Link | #11803
So then, will the Megahammer idea be totally scrapped? ;~;

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gc
Posted on 01-31-13 02:48 PM Link | #11854
Posted by NWPlayer123
Posted by Glem3
This should be a sort of galaxy take on the typical "final bowser" world of the classic super mario bros. games... it takes place on bowser's planet, and has many missions, involving his "army", we could have some spaceships, and finally, bowser's castle.

This level mainly serves to provide a classic final level experience, before delving into the more twisted/galaxy experience of "edge of the universe". I think we agreed that at the end of this level, we find a room where peach supposedly was kept-- The final area should be a part of the castle with a cage (which peach was clearly in) that is now wrecked, but with a power star inside it instead. Either a signboard or an NPC can say that Peach was moved.

Of course, a "Sorry Mario, but your Princess is in another Galaxy!" joke is in order here.


Posted by gc
Yes, the edge of the universe should have more of a wasteland feel, with dark matter etc. The army would be stationed here, so spammage of airships, Undergrunt Gunners, Elec/Fire Shooters, spin switches, mechanical doors etc. is in order here. Actually, there shouldn't be too much lava (EotU has enough dark matter to cover that), or bullet bills (Bullet Base/Shrapnel Sandbar will cover that). There should be more of an army feel.
Oh, and the "Sorry Mario, but your princess is in another Galaxy" joke can be put on a signpost, and signed by Bowser Jr .


I totally agree with the dark matter feel, and I don't think Yoshi would fit in all that well....but if you can think of something plausible as a gimmick go right ahead.
We *could* use gravigen here, seeing as it is part of the story with Bowser and such. However, I don't know if we should use it more here or more in EotU


Noooooooo, don't trash it, it's awesome.
Posted by gc
Posted by gc
Actually, should this be one of Bowser's castles? I mean, it'd make sense. I really don't want this level to be "a bunch of connected walkways and gates".


Don't mean to spam, but people are ignoring it... ;~;
See end of my first post...?

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 01-31-13 03:51 PM Link | #11864
I'm not getting rid of the megahammer idea, there's no reason we should have zero lava.
I don't think that it should be a castle, and in all honesty I don't really care, which is why I ignored it.
It's not what I do, it's what I DON'T do.

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Tahcryon
Posted on 01-31-13 03:53 PM Link | #11865
Then we would have to have Yoshi for at least half of the level. Just having Yoshi for the boss part is...Gah.

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-31-13 08:21 PM Link | #11887
How do you think this level should be? This and EotU must be very different.

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Tahcryon
Posted on 01-31-13 08:29 PM Link | #11894
Posted by mariogalaxythree
How do you think this level should be? This and EotU must be very different.


Posted by gc
Just noticed that nobody's made this so far.
Anyway, Final Frontier is a Bowser level, with a stronger emphasis on an army/castle* gcchanical theme, with little to barely any lava.

(Glem3's description)
"This should be a sort of galaxy take on the typical "final bowser" world of the classic super mario bros. games... it takes place on bowser's planet, and has many missions, involving his "army", we could have some spaceships, and finally, bowser's castle.
This level mainly serves to provide a classic final level experience, before delving into the more twisted/galaxy experience of "edge of the universe". I think we agreed that at the end of this level, we find a room where peach supposedly was kept-- The final area should be a part of the castle with a cage (which peach was clearly in) that is now wrecked, but with a power star inside it instead. Either a signboard or an NPC can say that Peach was moved.
Of course, a "Sorry Mario, but your Princess is in another Galaxy!" joke is in order here. "

Basically, anything connected/associated with Bowser should be here, with none of the usual lava.

The boss:
(plan by TheNoSkinnedKoopa)
"I already had said this, but I wanna add a little more! Ok, this could be some of the dialogue from the cutscene when Bowser Jr. unexpectedly appears. Bowser Jr. says, "Haha! You REALLY think you can stop me and my dad? Just look at that spectacular black hole (or whatever the edge of the universe looks like)! My daddy worked really hard on that evil creation! And there is NO WAY I'M GONNA LET YOU DESTROY IT!!!"
Then Megahammer comes out and these are the changes from the original battle:
- Megahammer will be retextured to RED. (You'll see why in a bit)
- The battle arena will be on Lava. (Megahammer will be retextured to red because green doesn't go with lava and it looks cooler for the final Bowser Jr. battle.)
- There will be some enemies besides the bullet bills.
- The sling stars to help you get to the other side will be in barriers and killing 3 or more Magikoopas are required to make it go away.
- More Epic Music!"

"Maybe this should be actually Bowser's castle+surrounding courtyard(s). It would make sense for Bowser's army to be in his castle.
Hmmm, maybe a horde battle would be too messy. Perhaps groups of 5 or so enemies blocking staircases, hallways and walkways, "squadrons" of 10 or so enemies waiting in a room, 3 or so Hammer Bros chucking hammers down from adjacent higher walkways, maybe traps with Piranha Plants and stuff like that, Bowser Jr. doors with enemies behind them in one part, Bowser gates near the end, and maybe an army of ~100 enemies split into about 5 groups in a part of the courtyard, which Mario must avoid. And a lot of other enemies scattered around elsewhere.
There should be Bowser flags everywhere. Ooh, wait, maybe a group guards a Bowser flag leading up to another walkway. Less lava, perhaps, but maybe a generator room with Amps and lava, or a lava enemy room filled with the typical Bowser stage enemies with even more emphasis on lava. Replacing any Sling Stars/Launch Stars with flagpoles and cannons would help the Bowser army theme, too."
-gc


Here, read that. >.>

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-31-13 08:31 PM Link | #11900
Kind of like the Storm - I like it when the deceptive climax is this huge battle, but then a plot twist happens, and the final boss is more subtle. A perfect example is Avatar the last Airbender. A castle themed level with tons of bullet bills and minimal lava would be great. I also think a ton of hammer bros would be good here also. And would it be possible to have fire bros be in the game?

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 01-31-13 08:33 PM (rev. 2 of 01-31-13 08:33 PM) Link | #11904
In a year or 2, if we can duplicate enemies. I could easily get that working with the files.

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-31-13 08:41 PM Link | #11921
Could we have them launch fireballs though? That would be the challenging part.

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 01-31-13 08:43 PM (rev. 2 of 01-31-13 08:44 PM) Link | #11929
Yes, that would be simple. MN1 and I already made Ice Bros in the past, the only problem being that the projectile didn't freeze you. IT would be simple, I think, considering how well we'd need to understand the code, to edit the effect to burn you. I would just need to change effects and models, and possibly the projectile path.
And no, not ice bros by duplicating code, texture hacks and model swaps, but it's the same concept.

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-31-13 08:45 PM Link | #11933
Fire Bros need to happen. Period. And also (this may take time) Sledge Bros could possibly be introduced.

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Tahcryon
Posted on 01-31-13 08:56 PM Link | #11959
Gah. Why are we talking about this now? >_<

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-31-13 08:57 PM Link | #11961
Because they would be epic in FF galaxy

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Tahcryon
Posted on 01-31-13 08:57 PM Link | #11962
We can't do it yet. Think about what we CAN DO >_<

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-31-13 08:58 PM Link | #11966
Who says we can't? If (cosmo if I am correct) we can get Ice Mario working, than Fire Bros would easily be within our capability.

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