Posted by iyenal

See around Kuribo64 and tell me how much you see grey. Sometimes there is indeed threads with only banned users. And sorry StapleButter, but users aren't numbers.

I'm sorry, but the cold hard statistics dispute that. Saying "oh, but I see a lot of gray" doesn't change that, it's anecdotal evidence and that's the worst kind of evidence to support your argument given confirmation bias and other flaws, and thus isn't evidence for the contrary. I think StapleButter can try filtering to see overall which recently active user got banned, "recently" defined by maybe the last 90 days and maybe we might have a different result. Or you can try comparing this percentage to the average or median of banned users per form. Still, that 75% figure is completely made up. Saying "don't treat users like numbers" is ridiculous emotional pleading with no substance and there is nothing wrong with quantifying things that can be measured and turning it into a meaningful figure. That's the point of statistics and it helps us understand such figures better.

The most I can criticize is a lack of a formal warning system since users seem to be banned on a whim. But I'll check with other user statistics, particularly possible reasons a user got banned recently. It seems like users get banned on a whim if you're not familiar with StapleButter's banning behavior so some users have the impression that the threat of a ban is looming over them. The reality is that people get PMs about their behavior and so do receive a warning on it. It's the same as in Marioboards. Heck, in Marioboards, it's not uncommon to sometimes find entire threads and conversations by banned users, so this problem isn't unique to Kuribo64.

Some examples of recent bans. Known trolls and spammers don't count.

NokNokShell
The user got banned likely for extremely low posting quality overall. I know we sometimes engage in fun but this user seems to go a little far or doesn't seem to understand what he's (I assume it's a he) talking about. I don't think this user is older than 14, tops, but who knows, I can be wrong. Anyhow, makes nonsense posts including this where he wanted a Nintendo Developer Account and this Win7 account nonsense. When his posts don't get replies, he complains a whole freaking lot. Seems like postcount++, which is highly frowned upon here. He also necroes threads by asking honestly daft questions. Also repeatedly asked to be owner. Might be joking, but given overall post quality, it's hard to tell. Even made a poll about being owner, but got trashed quickly.

Spacey
Was the reason "Shit's going down in USA (and everywhere else too)" thread went to the trash. It might've started with DoubleYoshiExploshi's question of "if you complain about it why don't you do anything about it" which is in my opinion, a form of tu quoque fallacy, which is a faulty way to discredit an opponent's argument. Don't try it. Also, fyi, how you complain "it's annoying after a while" is not a legit complaint and can come off as concern trolling and tone trolling to other users. Now, this isn't DoubleYoshiExploshi's problem since he stopped but Spacey decided to do the same thing, but looks even more like actual concern trolling. Spacey engaged in extremely dishonest and disingenuous methods of arguing. It's dishonest because it's an ad homenium tu quoque as he accuses StapleButter of not embracing what he's doing and only using the suffering to embrace his views. It's disingenuous because discussing about it and acting on it are not mutually exclusive things and IMO StapleButter is likely powerless or financially strapped himself to give aid (remember he said he doesn't know if the money he gives will actually go to those services).

The act of saying "oh you're talking about economic divide that the storm clearly illustrated and making it a criticism of capitalism means you're only using it for selfish reasons" or "stop making it political" is definitely dishonest concern trolling. It's the same tactic climate change denier Scott Pruitt uses to discredit global warming by saying people are "offending Floridians" by discussing anthropomorphic climate change.

I don't think making crappy arguments is a basis for getting banned, but the Spacey decides to create multiple socks to give the appearance of more of a consensus, which again, is extremely dishonest. My suspicions were there, but Spacey destroyed his last shred of credibility by reregging or using meatpuppets just to make a point.

I'd criticize StapleButter on his fixation of capitalism but not in the same manner as Spacey has done. Arisotura has flaws like anyone else, but don't be a dishonest troll about it.

Super Hackio
I'm not 100% sure how this user got banned but I suspect it's from low-quality posts and being a little obnoxious but probably not on the same level as NokNokShell. Still, makes posts probably for the sake of postcount like this. Maybe some irl or behind-the-scenes PMs tried to get him set straight but he didn't listen or didn't improve that much. I'll leave it to some of you to explain, I don't think I was around when he got banned.