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TruelyJohn64
Posted on 06-01-17 06:14 PM (rev. 3 of 06-01-17 06:16 PM) Link | #83423
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Posted by Yami
I still find it hillarious how people assume 3rd party tools can block literally all the spyware Microsoft ever added into Windows since its very existence...

Command prompt is where it's at.

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My only complaints are the OS crashes and automatic updates. (OS crashes are rare for me. Does anyone else have this?)

I had 3 blue screens in the same week one time because why not. Even Microsoft's help page was like "We don't know either!"

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Posted on 06-01-17 07:08 PM Link | #83424

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Posted by TruelyJohn64
I had 3 blue screens in the same week one time because why not. Even Microsoft's help page was like "We don't know either!"

My computer has a built in OS crash handler, so whenever it crashes, my computer just restarts and everything is normal.

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Posted on 06-01-17 07:41 PM Link | #83425
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Posted by StapleButter
well, I mostly reacted to that particular bit because it's not entirely true. Microsoft is far from perfect, but they do provide some very good software.

an example would be Intellisense in Visual Studio. I have yet to find a good equivalent in another IDE. Netbeans' version was slow, and whenever it worked, it got in the way more than it helped. CodeBlocks has a better one, but it's still not as good as Intellisense.

so it's not like Microsoft produces nothing but trash. however, they do make stupid decisions. since we're talking about Visual Studio, why does the free version require registration? the only purpose I can think of is tracking the users.

another prime example would be how the defragmenter tool was destroyed in Windows Vista. it devolved from complete view and control over the process, to a black box where you click a button and wait until it's done and you're considered too dumb to understand more information. maybe some people found it too complicated (choosing a drive to defragment is too complex??), but it lacked something as basic as a progress bar, or which drive is being defragmented.

and this is in reply to the whole paragraph.

You're making a fair point about the Visual Studio part, it's quite a solid IDE.
Though I personally prefer to stay away from IDEs, and code the old fashioned way instead, since my files remain as clean as possible (and it feels more nostalgic also).

Posted by TruelyJohn64
Command prompt is where it's at.

I bet Microsofts' CMD also hides some stuff.
At least, as far as I understand it, Microsoft has been hiding away the MS-DOS part since Windows 95, and almost completely vanished to the background in Windows Me, which was the last Windows version that was based off MS-DOS.

Now all Windows versions are based off Windows NT instead, so Microsoft can hide/show whatever they wish, since it's entirely their own technology.
(And sorry if this part appears to be bullshit, it's only 4:41 am, at the moment of writing.)
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Posted on 06-01-17 07:46 PM Link | #83426

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MS-DOS was their thing too

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Posted on 06-01-17 08:19 PM Link | #83428
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Well, not entirely.
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Posted on 06-01-17 08:54 PM Link | #83435

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Last view: 1882 days ago 		So, what do you thing of Fluent design. I find it pretty sexy, like if Material and Aero had a child with only the good gene alleles :P And also, the things that pisses me off in Win10 seems to be almost gone: farts of Windows 7-8.1 still present in the system, like the File Explorer or the Control Panel.

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I'd say those are pretty useful if you want to browse your files or configure your computer...

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Posted on 06-01-17 08:58 PM Link | #83438

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Last view: 1882 days ago 		Errr, I was saying that those still were the exact same as Windows 8.1 and didn't have the same unified 'Metro' interface. So that means more code heavyness because you must nonstop switch between Metro apps and classic apps. And that sucks. So basically, MS is moving, update after update, things from the Control Panel to the new 'Metro' (Fluent in the future) Settings app :P

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Posted on 06-01-17 09:02 PM (rev. 2 of 06-01-17 09:02 PM) Link | #83439

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Posted by StarTrekVoyager
And also, the things that pisses me off in Win10 seems to be almost gone: farts of Windows 7-8.1 still present in the system, like the File Explorer or the Control Panel.

Windows explorer is the application I use the most. I mean, it's needed for pretty much each time you download something. Also, how the heck do you configure your computer without the control pannel? If those were gone, I would just stop using Windows at all.
EDIT: Ninja'd. Also, I don't like Metro.

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Yami
Posted on 06-02-17 04:16 AM (rev. 2 of 06-02-17 04:16 AM) Link | #83454
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Posted by StarTrekVoyager
So, what do you thing of Fluent design. I find it pretty sexy, like if Material and Aero had a child with only the good gene alleles :P And also, the things that pisses me off in Win10 seems to be almost gone: farts of Windows 7-8.1 still present in the system, like the File Explorer or the Control Panel.

I have to admit, Fluent Design looks way better than Metro/Modern/Material Design everyone faps on these days.
I never liked Metro/Modern in the first place, and Material looked cool in the very beginning, but then it started to get overused by everyone, plus the colours are often way to bright, which made me disgust that one as well.

With Fluent Design, it looks like Microsoft is stealing stuff from Apple again (take a look at iOS, that one had "Fluent Design" for years now!), but it's better to have something well stolen, than badly designed yourself, right?
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Splitwirez
Posted on 06-02-17 09:58 AM (rev. 2 of 06-02-17 10:14 AM) Link | #83460
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Last view: 1937 days ago 		Ehh...
To me,
2003 Aero --> 2009 Aero --> Metro --> Fluent
is like
Gorgeous --> Still decent-looking --> Hideous --> Still ugly
._.

(The Acrylic surface itself does look awesome IMO...but that's just the blur effect itself, and Customatic proved that Windows 7 Aero + Windows 10 blur effects == awesome)

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Also have you guys heard about Windows 10 S? ._:-.

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Last view: 1882 days ago 		I absolutely hate Windows Vista and Seven Aero 'acrylic' looks. Actually, I hate anything that isn't flat and simple.

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Posted on 06-02-17 11:59 AM Link | #83464
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Posted by Splitwirez
2003 Aero

There was no Aero in 2003, Windows XP's theme was called "Luna", and it came out in 2001, not 2003.
Posted by StarTrekVoyager
I absolutely hate Windows Vista and Seven Aero 'acrylic' looks. Actually, I hate anything that isn't flat and simple.

Then you're the exact opposite of me, I actually prefer to have a nice glass effect over having a single, blinding colour right in your face...
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Posted on 06-02-17 01:14 PM Link | #83468
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flat themes can be good when well done.

but when it became a trend for everything, I started barfing rainbows

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Posted on 06-02-17 03:36 PM Link | #83470
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Posted by Yami
There was no Aero in 2003, Windows XP's theme was called "Luna", and it came out in 2001, not 2003.

Wrong. There most certainly were early versions of Aero in 2003. Lots of them.
[thumbnail] [thumbnail] [thumbnail]
and before you argue that those are all just concepts, yes, they are, so here are some real builds of Windows that actually exist and are actually out there:
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Posted by Yami
I actually prefer to have a nice glass effect over having a single, blinding colour right in your face...

I completely agree.


Posted by Thierry
flat themes can be good when well done.

Easier said than done, but yes, I agree with that too.

Posted by Thierry
but when it became a trend for everything, I started barfing rainbows

Like this:

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Posted on 06-02-17 07:00 PM Link | #83486
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Last view: 1122 days ago 		I love minimalistic design. I really don't know why. It just feels... less 'cluttered'. As long as there's some depth to it, of course - Windows 10's windows and taskbar got tired quickly for me because they're one solid color - I don't like that. But I really don't like textures and all that on just UI elements.

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Oh yeah, I completely forgot about Longhorn...
But then again, I'm not a Windows user, I only started using it when I joined secondary school, and only knew Debian (and DOS) before that.
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Posted on 06-11-17 04:12 AM Link | #83675
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Yep, and Windows 10 comes in second:
https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
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I think one time when I was looking at computer viruses, I saw a video of a computer virus that turns WinXP into some puzzle. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

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