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Arisotura |
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![]() Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 165 ![]() Posts: 5263/9052 EXP: 58478428 Next: 457253 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box ![]() Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
reminds me of this morning
I get a message from my new phone operator because a payment didn't go through, I try to quickly access their site from mobile to do that payment manually "your shit is secure because this is https" and it was fucking HTTP trying again at univ, the same page on a desktop was https, no problem ____________________ NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is zafkflzdasd |
LeftyGreenMario |
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![]() Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 83 ![]() Posts: 104/2062 EXP: 5346043 Next: 86178 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 713 days ago Last view: 712 days ago |
What do you think caused that weird ass bug?
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Arisotura |
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![]() Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 165 ![]() Posts: 5264/9052 EXP: 58478428 Next: 457253 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box ![]() Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
Anthe |
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Member I have found a basket to put in my SD card reader so I never lose it Level: 66 ![]() Posts: 967/1099 EXP: 2461531 Next: 320 Since: 08-17-12 From: Belgium Last post: 1064 days ago Last view: 654 days ago |
Posted by StapleButter I have a web-app kind of thing where it was just very annoying that every time you visited a different page, the screen would go blank and load the page over. It didn't look very good. Now I load in the navigational elements and put in content using xhr. When changing pages it just empties a specific div, shows the loading animation and substitutes it with new content. Very smooth and pretty. ____________________ ![]() |
Arisotura |
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![]() Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 165 ![]() Posts: 5265/9052 EXP: 58478428 Next: 457253 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box ![]() Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
The browser handles loading pages and switching between them, but also more than that. History, saving the scroll position on a page before leaving it, caching things like what you had entered in forms so you can go back to it, and more.
You're trashing all of that just to make it look 'cool' when you load pages. Sacrificing usability for "looking good" is not good design. I'd rather use something that isn't really pretty but functional and usable, than something that looks pretty but can be frustrating and infuriating to use due to bad design decisions. However, if you're able to combine pretty and usable, bonus points. But that doesn't change my stance on the "reproduce the browser's functionality in JS" trend. Even if done properly (which is rare), it's a lot of bloat for mostly nothing. ____________________ NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is zafkflzdasd |
LeftyGreenMario |
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![]() Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 83 ![]() Posts: 108/2062 EXP: 5346043 Next: 86178 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 713 days ago Last view: 712 days ago |
Does anyone support the trend to be "simplistic" and/or "sleek" in the websites? I don't. I'd cringe if I saw something like quackwatch become "modern". Oh, and they try pandering to mobile support, and it never ever looks good. Case study: Los Angeles Times website.
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Baby Luigi |
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Baby Luigi Level: 54 ![]() Posts: 105/749 EXP: 1170532 Next: 63338 Since: 03-13-16 From: Lost in Time Last post: 2022 days ago Last view: 2016 days ago |
Isn't it a bit ironic that the simplistic look doesn't mean simplistic coding and therefore you get atrocious load times?
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Arisotura |
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![]() Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 165 ![]() Posts: 5391/9052 EXP: 58478428 Next: 457253 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box ![]() Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
fucking autoplaying videos even if they're silent
what tells you that I'm not browsing from a metered connection? desktop doesn't always mean unlimited internet, morons similarly, autoplaying videos that are silent but start blaring sound when you hover over them. Whoever designs such crap needs to die in a fire. ____________________ NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is zafkflzdasd |
Anthe |
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Member I have found a basket to put in my SD card reader so I never lose it Level: 66 ![]() Posts: 972/1099 EXP: 2461531 Next: 320 Since: 08-17-12 From: Belgium Last post: 1064 days ago Last view: 654 days ago |
Posted by StapleButter Browser history, scroll position and caching all work on my site, along with new stuff like notifications and live tiles. Animations make it clear to the user when something is loading (whereas before you had to wait - if the screen blanked out it meant it was at least doing something). Spinning wheels keep users busy during load times (which on our school network can be very, very long). I couldn't do any of this without 'reinventing' the page loading in Javascript. It might come over as bloat, but my users actually enjoy the new all-Javascript way more than the old version. Not all websites need an approach like this, but for my product it works wonderfully. ____________________ ![]() |
Arisotura |
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![]() Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 165 ![]() Posts: 5392/9052 EXP: 58478428 Next: 457253 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box ![]() Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
Meh. It's still a ton of bloat (nearly recoding the whole browser) just for a little fancy visual effect. Not worth it.
Not to mention the fact of requiring Javascript for the site to work at all. Many people disable it to avoid infections or annoyances like autoplaying video players. ____________________ NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is zafkflzdasd |
Yami |
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(ーωー。) Level: 61 ![]() Posts: 448/959 EXP: 1812095 Next: 64501 Since: 12-07-14 From: Japan Last post: 2776 days ago Last view: 2774 days ago |
I generally oppose the use of JavaScript, unless it's necessary.
Browser effects can be achieved with CSS3 as well these days, so you don't need JavaScript for that...mostly. |
Arisotura |
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![]() Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 165 ![]() Posts: 5397/9052 EXP: 58478428 Next: 457253 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box ![]() Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
'stunning visual effects' and that crap are for children
real users much prefer a website that is straightforward and works and doesn't suffer from a billion bugs and annoyances because some hipster tried to reinvent the browser in JS also, those goddamn comment sections on certain pages: like, there are 7 comments, and it shows 5 and a "load more comments" button WHY and this is crappy manual infinite scrolling, too ____________________ NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is zafkflzdasd |
Baby Luigi |
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Baby Luigi Level: 54 ![]() Posts: 137/749 EXP: 1170532 Next: 63338 Since: 03-13-16 From: Lost in Time Last post: 2022 days ago Last view: 2016 days ago |
At MarioWiki, there is a proposal to call use of Javascript to embed videos on the glitches page in the mainspace.
I don't support that because one, even if the videos are rendered in HTML5, it'll still cause loading misery. Two, I believe that's unecessary use of Javascript. And three, external linking via references works fine, so there's no need to embed videos on the page itself. |
Arisotura |
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Baby Luigi |
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Baby Luigi Level: 54 ![]() Posts: 142/749 EXP: 1170532 Next: 63338 Since: 03-13-16 From: Lost in Time Last post: 2022 days ago Last view: 2016 days ago |
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Arisotura |
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Yami |
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(ーωー。) Level: 61 ![]() Posts: 452/959 EXP: 1812095 Next: 64501 Since: 12-07-14 From: Japan Last post: 2776 days ago Last view: 2774 days ago |
Posted by Baby Luigi Not sure if it's still possible on MarioBoards, but back when I were there, you could set PHP Files as your Avatar. Back then, I wasn't aware of the risks yet, but now I can safely say, it's a very high risk. I mean, it only takes to include a Cookie Theft JavaScript File into a PHP File, and Link to it. And bam! You can Login as anyone, if you modify your Cookies! However, I'm not sure whether SMF uses HTTP-Only Cookies or not. |
Baby Luigi |
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Baby Luigi Level: 54 ![]() Posts: 154/749 EXP: 1170532 Next: 63338 Since: 03-13-16 From: Lost in Time Last post: 2022 days ago Last view: 2016 days ago |
Posted by Yami I know a user there sets his avatars to be set on certain threads (Lakituthequick). Like, in a thread about the weather, he has his avatar holding an umbrella; a Mario Kart-thread shows his avatar driving a go-kart; a thread that talks about how stupid Miiverse is has his avatar face-palming, etc. I'm not sure if that's what you're talking about but it stands out to me, since you normally can't do that with the functions in those boards. |
Arisotura |
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![]() Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 165 ![]() Posts: 5421/9052 EXP: 58478428 Next: 457253 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box ![]() Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
Posted by Yami that wouldn't work if the avatar is embedded as a <img> tag well, it can work, but only under IE6 ____________________ NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is zafkflzdasd |
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(ーωー。) Level: 61 ![]() Posts: 454/959 EXP: 1812095 Next: 64501 Since: 12-07-14 From: Japan Last post: 2776 days ago Last view: 2774 days ago |
Posted by Baby Luigi No, that's not what I mean, but it's a nice one to do. Posted by StapleButter Oh, I see now. |
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