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Blue-Tora

Posted on 03-01-15 04:33 PM

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So in this case, we have to do it ourselves?

Never did anything like that before...x.x

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Posted on 03-01-15 04:50 PM

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Fine, when I'm done with that plugin you can pick up it from me in the grave.

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Posted on 03-01-15 05:00 PM

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Do you think the board you're posting on would exist if everyone thought the same way as you?

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Posted on 03-01-15 05:21 PM

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Posted by Rainbow Mario
Fine, when I'm done with that plugin you can pick up it from me in the grave.

Soooo you're calling it 'impossible' but putting no effort to make it possible?
Seriously?

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KoopaTroopaMan

Posted on 03-01-15 05:39 PM

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Posted by StapleButter
Do you think the board you're posting on would exist if everyone thought the same way as you?

So good that everyone don't think like me then.

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Fine, when I'm done with that plugin you can pick up it from me in the grave.

Soooo you're calling it 'impossible' but putting no effort to make it possible?
Seriously?

I don't and won't put effort to make it possible, because it would be really pain to do it when I almost don't know anything about coding, BDL's sections and Blender.

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Posted on 03-01-15 05:47 PM

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Then you have to learn it...
Do you think guys like NWP or Staple were born with the ability to code everything or do you think they learned it over years?

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Blue-Tora

Posted on 03-01-15 05:51 PM (rev. 3 of 03-01-15 06:49 PM)

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They had to have years of experience. Not like they would able to do it overnight.

So you're saying that it's impossible, but yet, nobody does anything to make it possible? This is something we need to work on. We'll have no choice but to persevere. We may need to take the hard way and learn about the joints and such on Blender.

KoopaTroopaMan

Posted on 03-01-15 07:25 PM (rev. 2 of 03-01-15 07:27 PM)

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Or we can take the easiest way: give up.

Believe me, we'll never see a plugin in Blender that supports BDL editing made by us.

Arisotura

Posted on 03-01-15 07:29 PM

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Posted by Rainbow Mario
Or we can take the easiest way: give up.

Believe me, we'll never see a plugin in Blender that supports BDL editing made by us.

Sure.

Let me give up too and close Kuribo64.

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Posted on 03-01-15 07:32 PM

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Can we stop this passive argument and get back on topic?

For one, I'm under the impression that giving Yoshi a hat is just more trouble then it's worth. You might be better off focusing on other projects.

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Posted on 03-01-15 07:33 PM

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Posted by Stygmax
Can we stop this passive argument and get back on topic?

For one, I'm under the impression that giving Yoshi a hat is just more trouble then it's worth. You might be better off focusing on other projects.

backseat modding, ban

also yeah, even though it might look cool, but it's not really worth that much trouble. But I can tell you, editing BCKs will come soon, just have to wait for a bit. There's already a little bit documented, so might work off of that.

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Posted on 03-01-15 07:37 PM

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backseat backseat modding

do what you fucking want to SMG, I don't care anymore

just don't say it's impossible because you aren't willing to spend some effort into it

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Posted on 03-01-15 07:46 PM

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Posted by Rainbow Mario
Or we can take the easiest way: give up.

Believe me, we'll never see a plugin in Blender that supports BDL editing made by us.

True, but as previously mentioned, one is in development (built of obj2bdl, at that), and it can already import vertices.

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Posted on 03-01-15 08:21 PM (rev. 3 of 03-01-15 08:23 PM)

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The only reason why it's "impossible," is because nobody is willing to take the time and effort to MAKE IT possible. No wonder we can't get it.

If splitwirez announced that there's actually a plugin currently in development, we'll go with that and wait until such tool is made and released. And since it can import vertices, then it should be able to import the bones and animations as well with no problem, if that's the case.

Therefore, it'll be possible to have Yoshi be controlled the same way, with the hat added on. Arguing isn't the best idea to go, and won't get us anywhere.

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Posted on 03-01-15 08:53 PM

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The only thing we can do now is to wait.

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Posted on 03-01-15 09:03 PM

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sigh

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Posted on 03-01-15 09:24 PM

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It shouldn't take months or years for that to be made, would it?

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Posted on 03-01-15 09:27 PM

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It all depends on your motivation.

But no, you can't get it done in one day.

But someone has to do it.

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Posted on 03-01-15 09:30 PM

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Since it isn't a component of any of the major SMG2 hack projects, it's unlikely that there will be a demand independent of this possible source cited by Splitwirez.

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Blue-Tora

Posted on 03-01-15 10:31 PM (rev. 4 of 03-01-15 10:36 PM)

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Well, time for an update. My friend has discovered an issue for us to see. And he is someone who knows of programs regarding 3D model design.

The feather that Galaxy-Hacker had, HAS TRIS. 3D Models for games can't be triangular. It always needs to be squares. We would have to use SQUARES to make triangles, and that's something we'd have to do. In this matter, we'll have to trick the program by making triangles out of squares, by using the square tools.

The Yoshi Model itself is fine, but the feather on the hat isn't optimized. We'll have to re-do that. It can NEVER have triangle faces, which is probably what causes the whole model to stay in that T formation pose. The vertices are probably still there, it's just that we can't have the models as TRIANGLES. That's what made those shadows to flicker all over the place as well during gameplay.

If we manage to re-do the feather by using squares and that still doesn't work, then it will be best to wait until a program where vertices can be imported is released.

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