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Swingball
Posted on 09-07-18 07:18 PM Link | #95816
I wouldn’t wanna keep my facial hair. I don’t need to be reminded of how old I’m growing.... <_<

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Ijah
Posted on 09-08-18 10:33 AM Link | #95817
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This where I come in and say it's all about free T and DHT in the blood, you can target that with certain herbs to achieve reduced male hair growth patterns and not fuck around with the real gear that changes fat redist and possibly causing mutagenic effects, which do happen when E is unmanagedly high in the brain.

Drink spearmint tea for fucks sake, how much more proof do peeps need that these things actually do something, subtle and slow is better than none, but it is something, people sketch out after reading all the misinformation you get on reddit and other sites the new kids regard as god.

Getting laz0red is expensivo and spooky.

Arisotura
Posted on 09-08-18 10:41 AM Link | #95818
given how much laz0r I'm going to need, I don't think herbal shito would get me to a point where I pass

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Ijah
Posted on 09-08-18 10:48 AM Link | #95821
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Passing altogether is one thing but it's always nice for the mind to be doing things that contribute in some way to the desired result.

Also most times you get bad shit unless you pay, real Deoxymiroestrol is super potent, and most products don't contain it as it oxidises to Miroesteol which is weak shit.

The internet is full of misinformation and downing of effective herbal remedies because it would put the man and pharma out on their arses if the people knew.

Look at the cancer industry, researching everything other than the component of Ayahuasca Harmaline which is proven now to kill all types of cancer and prevent regrowth of malignant carcinoma.

I dunno, vlarg.

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 09-08-18 04:24 PM Link | #95823
Promoting herbal medicine

Sorry to break it to you but they don't work.

Ayahuasca Harmaline "proven" to kill cancer? I doubt it. Chemotherapy remains the best solution for cancer.

Ijah
Posted on 09-08-18 06:59 PM Link | #95827
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Posted by LeftyGreenMario
Promoting herbal medicine

Sorry to break it to you but they don't work.

Ayahuasca Harmaline "proven" to kill cancer? I doubt it. Chemotherapy remains the best solution for cancer.


Chemo turns people into vegetables, that is why alternate research is needed!

Do some research yourself, it is very promising!
Here is one recent pub on the affects vs HepG2 cell (Liver cancer).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5774346/

And one here on the human tests on generalized leukemia.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4663518/

This is one plant and one disease for example, do not put ill founded answers on something so broad.

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 09-08-18 08:45 PM (rev. 3 of 09-08-18 09:03 PM) Link | #95830
Both are study that's limited to the effects on cell cultures. It's a far leap to conclude that this is the cure for cancer. In vitro's limitations are in a very specific and limited environment that doesn't match the reality of the human body. They can be good pilot studies, but you can't say it's a "proven" cure for cancer, and it's very disingenuous to imply that "the man and pharma" would be bankrupt out of their asses if they let people knew about the secret alternative cure, which I've seen this argument be repeated extremely often by alt-med promoters.

"Alternate research", no, that's just a nice way of saying research that isn't widespread because of reasons I listed previously. I strongly suggest against any other treatment, especially when this one isn't used as treatment because the studies you're showing me is already quite limited in scope. Chemotherapy turns people into vegetables, but it remains the best method to treat cancer, and I believe promoting alternative medicine for cancer is dangerous and expensive.

Ijah
Posted on 09-09-18 06:47 AM (rev. 2 of 09-09-18 06:48 AM) Link | #95834
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There are in vivo studies and pubs, but I won't try to educate you on something you may never hopefully need to care about.


I have literally seen what happens to people after chemo, it is horrifying so don't try and tell me it's the best we got, because I know further research is being suppressed.

Look at Spain, they have proton therapy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_therapy

There was that case remember of how two parents refused chemo for their child and tried to take their kid to Spain for proton therapy, the UK government filed abduction charges to the parents.

People become dependant on drugs after chemo because it destroys nerves across the body, they have no hunger andymore and bouts of terrible depression, it's so bad.

Fuck chemo.

So there, blarg.

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 09-09-18 07:20 PM Link | #95855
Chemo is unpleasant. I know this. I've had a best friend irl who suffered from leukemia and I was very difficult experience for everyone involved. He had to suffer losing hair, nausea, and the pain of bone marrow transplants. He remained committed to chemotherapy, however, as it remains his best shot at survival, and he's recovered today, and I do hope the leukemia doesn't come back. If he or his family decides to forgo chemo, I think the outcome will be far worse.

It's this case, correct
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashya_King_case

Refusing chemo for your child is usually not the right choice. I don't know the details of the story but I'm sure there's a reason they're filed abduction charges. I'm aware that proton therapy appears to be used as conventional treatment but I fail to see how it will replace chemo, and it also comes with its own risks and harms as well as also being really limited in application. That the boy survived seems to give too much credit to proton therapy. In the Wikipedia article, he had medulloblastoma that was successfully removed through surgery and he also received more surgery, which I suspect contributed to King's recovery.

In this case the doctors did not support moving the boy so that he could get proton therapy, and in response, on 28 August 2014, the parents took their son out of the hospital without telling the medical team and boarded a ferry to France.


Yeah, disobeying the doctors like that is dangerous. Again, it's good that King survived, but this endangers King's life. In fact this reduced his chances of survival from 80 to 50 per cent.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11749505/Ashya-Kings-parents-reduced-his-survival-chances-by-30-per-cent-report-reveals.html

There's a ton of head-ache inducing conflict and miscommunication in that article.

Proton therapy also has its own issues.

The issue of when, whether, and how best to apply this technology is controversial. As of 2012 there have been no controlled trials to demonstrate that proton therapy yields improved survival or other clinical outcomes (including impotence in prostate cancer) compared to other types of radiation therapy, although a five-year study of prostate cancer is underway at Massachusetts General Hospital.


https://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2013/09/16/proton-therapy-is-coming-to-the-uk-but-what-does-it-mean-for-patients/ <- link right in the Wikipedia article you cited
Before we get too excited about this new treatment, it’s important to point out that it’s thought that only around one per cent of UK cancer patients could be suitable for proton therapy. There’s also a lack of hard conventional evidence to prove that it’s more effective and kinder than conventional radiotherapy.


Further research isn't being "suppressed". As I pointed out, evidence is either limited or low-quality.

Chemo saves lives. Alternative therapies do not. The boy had a higher chance surviving if he had chemo. While I don't think the government should've went into a manhunt to King's parents (I think there is a gross misunderstanding going on), his parents did the wrong thing and were lucky that their son survived.

Arisotura
Posted on 10-16-18 10:54 AM Link | #96181
so

I had my 3rd laz0r appointment about one month ago. I fucking died despite the numbing cream. but oh boy are the results amazing. you have to pay attention to see I have any facial hair left. most of my face is smooth, still have some around chin and upper lip. but also a good amount of blond hairs, which, zerp.

I'm told that my face is androgynous, I think I even had a male fail today, which... zjgodrog!!!!!!!!

(zdfdfsfing voice tho)


I'm in for a 4th round of laz0r tomorrow. wish me luck.

although I think I won't be dying as much due to how my facial hair was axed already. what hurts is really when hair gets burned (and you can smell it, too).

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nekholm
Posted on 10-17-18 02:48 PM Link | #96183
Burning hair smell :barf:

Belated good luck!

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Arisotura
Posted on 10-17-18 02:50 PM (rev. 2 of 10-17-18 02:51 PM) Link | #96184
belated thanks, you belated derpi


also yeah. my chin still has some smell.

atleast that means it's working.


also, little report

it hurt way more than expected on the upper lip

other than that, it was pretty normal. hurt some on the chin where some hair was left. next to nothing on the sides.

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Arisotura
Posted on 11-12-18 04:52 AM Link | #96385
sigh.

it's growing back, again

and what little passing I had is gone with it. back to solidly getting misgendered. how fun.

a shame, really. because my face got a feminine twist now.

blarg.

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Arisotura
Posted on 09-20-19 05:09 AM Link | #98163
I got laz0red, again.

for the 11th time or so.

will the tenacious upperlip/chin hairs be finally vanquished? might be on the right way. it didn't hurt as much as the last time.

face sides still have nothing or almost, so laz0ring what little is left can only be good. or letting it be vellus hair so it feels natural.

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HEYimHeroic
Posted on 09-20-19 05:38 AM Link | #98165
wow, this is taking a lot longer than i thought. though, good to hear it seems there's not much longer until all the evil hairs are gone.

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Arisotura
Posted on 09-30-19 12:08 PM Link | #98193
there aren't a whole lot of hairs falling off right now, but at the same time, the shedding period isn't over. shrug.

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Arisotura
Posted on 11-04-19 12:24 PM Link | #98282
asfgafsdfsgdas some came back. upper lip and chin are tenacious af.

beh. going back to laz0r Tuesday. hope I can get this finished.

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HEYimHeroic
Posted on 11-04-19 05:17 PM Link | #98288
i bet the end is super close. hope all goes well here ^^

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