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StapleButter
Posted on 09-09-17 05:36 PM Link | #88209
not sure what you mean there, but there are actually anarchists & co. who are there are provide whatever help they can

I just doubt mainstream media mentions it at all

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Spacey
Posted on 09-09-17 05:45 PM Link | #88210
You know exactly what I mean, sorry if I made you a tad mad by making people like you look like snobs lad.

The point is sides don't matter when it comes to stuff like this, most people understand that. There are of course people like you who take this situation and try to use human suffering to make their 'side' look better. Take a look at the amount of people trying to help victims of these hurricanes and you will see people from all sorts of political standings. Not everyone tries to make every event that occurs political, and im sorry if that bothers you.

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StapleButter
Posted on 09-09-17 05:53 PM Link | #88211
I'm genuinely puzzled as to how you can somehow think I'm "trying to make my side look better" here. I'm not the one selling water packs $42, or giving people life sentences because they (what a fucking crime) looted for their survival in this mess.

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Spacey
Posted on 09-09-17 06:11 PM (rev. 2 of 09-09-17 06:18 PM) Link | #88212
Yeah, you are, thanks for proving it. Thanks as well for ignoring my point about, and giving a great example of, making everything political because thats the root of your problems.

Allow me to be of assistance though, because luckily for you I come from a reality where not everything has to be "fuck trump and capitalism, but them anarchists tho" or "fuck anarchists and communism, but them capitalists tho".

Rather than post about how much capitalism is ruining your life and anarchy is the one true lord and saviour of man kind, post links to ways people can either directly or indirectly support victims of harvey as well as people currently in the path of hurricane irma. Try to help organize events an other such things that would make it so people don't have to loot then get arrested (To touch on this for a second, 'looted for their survival' yeah and also further fucking the lives of people who have already lost so much and possibly taking the supplies the people it belongs to need to survive. They should get arrested for that). A novel idea I know, supporting the people suffering rather than taking the oppurtunity to talk about how much 'the man' sucks and peddle your opinions on politics.

Edit: Ive been trying to get together a really big list of relief funds and put them in a pastebin, but for now heres a few you can donate too

GHCF Fund
Global Giving fund
and if you are a fan of GDQ events, GDQ Harvey Relief Done Quick donation site

Please donate if you can and even if you don't spreading the word helps.



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StapleButter
Posted on 09-09-17 06:15 PM Link | #88213
if you think people deserve to get arrested for trying to meet their vital needs, you have no place here


if this kind of shit happens where you live, and you happen to have stocks, basic humanity would dictate you to distribute them to whoever, and not hoard them for profit

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TapeYogurt
Posted on 09-09-17 06:18 PM Link | #88214
Hey guys here are some links to relief funds.

https://ghcf.org/hurricane-relief/

This article also contains websites for other organizations more focused on specifics like food, blood, animal rescue, and so forth. Donate what you can if you can, and look at your local news for info on places where you may be able drop off supplies like clothing, food, blankets, toiletries for the people affected by Harvey.

Spacey
Posted on 09-09-17 06:22 PM Link | #88215
Excuse me? You realize people are looting residential homes right? With people still there? Also how this will ruin mom and pop shops who need that money to live? I'm sorry I don't align with your honestly poor opinions, but if you are going to treat everyone who disagrees with you like some sort of heathen and threat to peoples humanities, I suggest looking in a mirror. Again, thanks for ignoring the parts of my argument that don't support your needs, it was a pleasure. Im sure i'll enjoy what is probably my incoming ban.

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StapleButter
Posted on 09-09-17 06:28 PM (rev. 2 of 09-09-17 06:32 PM) Link | #88216
I was referring to people looting stores, which may have been unclear. looting homes is another issue and indeed something bad.


there are still very real issues that arise from the general system and that need to be pointed out. your posts, if we put aside your shitty attitude, are basically saying "don't criticize the system, this is no time for politics, the system is perfect, help it".

and no, the system isn't perfect, and there are things that deserve to be pointed out. price gouging has no place in this kind of situation, for one.

I'm not going to ban you now, but I suggest you cut it out with the attitude. I'm open to debates, but this is only serving to turn people against you.


oh also: the hurricane funds etc should be posted in their own thread, it'll be a better place than this thread

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Spacey
Posted on 09-09-17 06:46 PM Link | #88218
I'm not saying the system is perfect, I never said that, I said that using this hurricane as some sort of moral ammuntion against the system reflects back on you poorly. I also said that you should maybe try to help the people affected by this disaster rather than sit in your ivory tower gloating about how right you are in your opinions. Sorry about the shitty attitude, I didn't know critisizing people and being a bit smarmy was wrong.

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StapleButter
Posted on 09-09-17 09:58 PM Link | #88229
Posted by Spacey
sit in your ivory tower gloating about how right you are in your opinions.

I don't quite see where I am "gloating about how I'm right", but okay whatever

what would be my 'moral ammunition against the system' as you put it, is not the hurricane itself but the instances of price gouging that have been happening. the same critiques also apply outside of the hurricane situation, but it's more disgusting in this situation. maybe you will consider me entitled or whatever, but I am of those that think meeting your vital needs should be a right and not a privilege.


regardless, I don't live near the hurricane site, so there's not much I can actually do. I can donate money, but I'd like to be sure the money is going to be used the right way. you can never be sure with donations, that's the sad thing.

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Pk
Posted on 09-09-17 11:00 PM Link | #88230
I don't quite see where I am "gloating about how I'm right", but okay whatever


It's hard to see that you're in an ivory tower when all your windows are shut, if you left them open you might hear dissenting opinions that make sense, and wouldn't that be a shame.

TapeYogurt
Posted on 09-09-17 11:01 PM Link | #88231
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Spacey
Posted on 09-09-17 11:08 PM Link | #88232
This is getting ridiculous, you've argued yourself into a corner that you can't get out of and you are scrambling up the wall as if its some sort of escape.

It is using the hurricane as moral ammunition, because while you have a point about price gouging, you ruin it by ignoring the fact that real people are hurting, instead focusing on how this is toatally all capitalisms fault. Oh sure, you say that you think people its important for people to meet their vital needs, but you pretend that solutions to this problem that don't involve doing away with capitalism don't exist. You can donate and spread the word to help out, any little bit can help and complaining about capitalism won't help.

Heck you waited until you were called out in this thread to even bother sharing some sort of relief fund for harvey/irma on your twitter and even then it was a bit sketchy and even then it was a donation form that agreed with your ideology and discouraged donating to the american red cross. Yeah you know, that scam organization the american red cross that is globally known for how well they handle situations like this. 100% Scam. If you want to make sure the money is going to the right place its fairly simple, there are a lot of articles detailing ways to donate and if you don't trust the capitalist media, you can always cross reference articles and do some background checking yourself. Its a bit of leg work but its worth it if you really want to help. But thats the problem, you don't seem to want to help, you only care about it being the fault of an economic system you dont like.

Theres a lot you can do including spread the word about how others can help out. But hey, if you did that you wouldn't have problems to blame on capitalism. If you want to make me out to be the bad guy here, try harder.

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TapeYogurt
Posted on 09-09-17 11:09 PM Link | #88233
I think it has become more and more apparent that this thread is a proverbial pile of sand for people to stick their head into.

StapleButter
Posted on 09-09-17 11:14 PM Link | #88234
nice try bringing in sockpuppets or minions or whatever to make yourself look more important


but no


anyway I'm going to put an end to this thread, it wouldn't teach us anything new.

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