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Arisotura
Posted on 03-15-16 11:11 PM Link | #68690
Posted by Yami
SquidEmpress believes ISIS/ISIL/IS came out of nowhere, actually, just like the vast majority of this Planet.
But unlike them, I don't check Mainstream Media, as those are filled with Propaganda, False Flags, and other bullshit.

people can say anything really, but unless you hack into the government's archives and shit, there's no way to know


Posted by Baby Luigi
On the subject of smart cars, can't manual countermeasures prevent automated remote bullcrap from happening? Or will the black hats make it so you can't switch to manual when your car is going haywire?

it all depends on how much of the car is controlled by the computer

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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 03-15-16 11:17 PM Link | #68693
Posted by Yami
No idea what that is, but if you mean stuff like FBI, CIA, NSA, etc., it's your choice whether you trust those or not.
NSA: Your privacy at danger.
CIA: Grand founders of ISIS/ISIL/IS.
Now we will only need to know what the FBI really does.

In the U.S., at least, Social security is a federal government-controlled program that's part of social welfare (retirement pensions) but government controls as well as medicaid, ensured deposits at banks, FAFSA, CDC, EPA, and a bunch of other things that would be much harder to live without in modern society. You'll have to trust the government to pay you pension when you retire, help your kids receive a quality education, construct the roads, manage marriage and the property you're on, manage the water supply, subsidize the gas you're driving to make it affordable, maintain public parks, maintain the environment (although U.S. has a bunch of global warming deniers in Congress), administer vaccines and other health-measures. It's hard to distrust the government when it's doing so much that you can't avoid it and you already trust it to do all of these services. Even if you don't live in the U.S., your government is still probably doing a lot and probably even more since U.S. doesn't even have universal health care.

Posted by Yami
But unlike them, I don't check Mainstream Media, as those are filled with Propaganda, False Flags, and other bullshit.

What makes you think the "nonmainstream" stuff doesn't have the same thing? Where are you getting your information from?

I mean, that's the same argument cranks use to deny basic facts like "vaccines are good for you", and make false, outrageous claims such as "CDC lied to cover up the link between vaccines and autism".

Posted by StapleButter
it all depends on how much of the car is controlled by the computer

Yeah, on that aspect, not sure what the degree of control is, but maybe it'll be like autopilot?

Arisotura
Posted on 03-15-16 11:19 PM (rev. 2 of 03-15-16 11:20 PM) Link | #68695
which is what I said; just because it's not the mainstream media doesn't mean it's holding the truth about everything


consider why Squidgirl constantly made up wacky conspiracy theories: to get attention

(and you can consider Squidgirl a nonmainstream media, but that media is full of shit)

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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 03-15-16 11:38 PM Link | #68709
Yup. I don't see the distrust in "mainstream media". Given that there is a pretty wide range of viewpoints (from Faux News to NPR to Mother Jones to CBS News) within what we call "mainstream media", exactly what makes something "mainstream" or not anyway? The only things I see are "mainstream" and "fringe" even though some networks like Faux News has fringe elements (and it doesn't consider itself mainstream either even though it has a damn high viewership).

On-topic: man, the more I look at Google Glass, the more I think it looks really stupid. Also, lol, Google Glass is getting banned in places, which includes driving because of privacy issues. What if they start making Smart Contact Lens? :o

Baby Luigi
Posted on 03-15-16 11:40 PM Link | #68711
I've seen Smart Contact lenses tech, it looks extremely intrusive. Contact lenses are supposed to simulate not wearing glasses, not be as intrusive as displaying UIs and crap.

SGC
Posted on 03-16-16 12:01 AM (rev. 2 of 03-16-16 12:02 AM) Link | #68717
Yes, the government might provide a lot of useful services, but that doesn't mean they're being completely honest with us all of the time. Anyway, I dislike main stream media, it's always filled with some sort of bullshit, especially propaganda, like it, or not. One of the main things I dislike about the government is, when they fuck up, or have any problems, for example lets say they piss off some other country, it becomes our problem as well, and in the end, the people get hurt over the things they say, and do, even though we could careless most of the time.

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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 03-16-16 12:13 AM (rev. 4 of 03-16-16 12:21 AM) Link | #68718
I think they're designed to not be intrusive while you're going on daily lives, but how the hell are you supposed to enforce that, especially for drivers? It's already tough enough with Google Glass, but this... omg. Maybe we'll have... driverless cars to compensate.

Posted by supergamecube
Yes, the government might provide a lot of useful services, but that doesn't mean they're being completely honest with us all of the time. Anyway, I dislike main stream media, it's always filled with some sort of bullshit, especially propaganda, like it, or not. One of the main things I dislike about the government is, when they fuck up, or have any problems, for example lets say they piss off some other country, it becomes our problem as well, and in the end the people get hurt over the things they say, and do, even though we could careless most of the time.

Never implied that they don't screw up and sometimes majorly like the Patriot Act, how they handled the Rwanda massacre, police brutality, quackery (like they allow homeopathy), super PACs, powerful lobbyists, money scandals, and more. But government isn't appreciated for what it has done for us, as many of you would find your lives much tougher if it weren't for financial aid, EPA, CDC, FDA, the U.S. Department of Education, even the IRS, and many many more.

And honestly, when people say that "mainstream media has some sort of bullshit", they never specify in regards of the information AND the whatever is providing it. Yes, they may have coverage issues including self-censorship during Charlie Hebdo massacre, no coverage given to global warming whatsoever, weird priorities such as not shutting up about Donald Trump or this basketball team guy who spouted racist comments, being not very informative, forcing "balance" into science based issues such as global warming, GMOs, and vaccines where there is actually a right side and a wrong side (on the other hand not covering valid views because of bias), questionable ownership control, bad priorities like no coverage on Rwanda genocide whatsoever, and many many more, but this doesn't sound really bad compared to the "nonmainstream" stuff like cranks, conspiracy theorists, and other crazy outlets.

Arisotura
Posted on 03-16-16 12:20 AM Link | #68719
media want things that will generate buzz


thus, no point talking about global warming because everybody is a) already aware or b) denies it

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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 03-16-16 12:32 AM Link | #68720
I'd like to think that it's not immediate (even though it is happening right now) or not easily noticeable but hm I don't see why mainstream media that's talking about the El Nino we've had recently doesn't say "Oh, and global warming is making it and the drought worse. Experience it for yourself and weep at your SUV before ultimately driving it to work."

And then you have politicians who don't take the issue seriously as they should (both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of this, although pretty much every Republican denies it) or even outright claim that it is a "hoax" or some crap like that probably just to score votes by these kinds of people.

I also think that stuff like the Sierra Leone civil war in 2002 and whatever is going on in East Timor would also be pretty good in garnering sensation but ah well, nobody knows about those.

Arisotura
Posted on 03-16-16 12:35 AM Link | #68721
my stance on it is that, well, we can't know


climate likes to play tricks, like that year where June was absurdly cold


then people like to set a 'norm' and go mad at everything that doesn't fit that norm


global warming may be happening 'naturally' for whatever reason


pollution isn't a good thing, maybe it's affecting it, maybe not, but we're facing forces we don't completely understand (we can't even reliably predict weather)

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Baby Luigi
Posted on 03-16-16 12:43 AM Link | #68722
Anthropogenic global warming is a fact accepted by all major scientific institutions, including NASA, NOAA, EPA, etc. That one month that was absurdly cold is simply just cherry-picking and magnifying in what should be a big picture thing. The overall trend is warming up, as you see from the line-graph trend of global average temperatures.

I'm not so sure about the extent we're causing it, but our burning of fossil fuels is most certainly contributing to it and hence why it's an issue that needs to be taken seriously.

Arisotura
Posted on 03-16-16 12:46 AM Link | #68724
and you damn well know that this will continue as long as there's petroleum available


because humans are dumb and only see profits


whatever, we'll see when they run out of petroleum

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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 03-16-16 01:09 AM (rev. 2 of 03-16-16 01:22 AM) Link | #68727
Just to add on what Baby Luigi has said, we actually have a ton of evidence for global warming from CO2 dissolved in our oceans to global average temperatures to record heat waves in the recent years to erratic weather leading to droughts and floods alike to ice amounts in the polar caps to disrupted migration patterns. While science is always cautious, we have evidence all over the place across various, if not all, scientific fields from chemistry, meteorology, oceanography, biology and more. It's very complex, sure, but the huge amounts of data we have for global warming is consistent with it, and there's no doubt that we're causing it. And it will be disastrous since the climate is changing so quickly so the events will be extreme and drastic.

Also, unlike weather, it is considerably easier to predict trends in climate.

Oil companies do have a lot of power because everyone needs petroleum and all, and it doesn't help that our own government can be controlled by these interest groups. The real conspiracy here is oil companies hiring "experts", often unqualified to argue about climatology, to deny that global warming exists or at least say that "it isn't bad" or even say that it is a hoax. And true, most of those who deny global warming not only have incorrect and cherry-picked data, they DO have oil ties.

In the meantime, on with Google bashing, Google HAS funded global warming denying thinktanks and other things like that, so go them.

Baby Luigi
Posted on 03-20-16 10:41 PM Link | #68947
I wonder what Google has to gain from denying global warming

Is it that their products need petroleum?

Arisotura
Posted on 03-20-16 10:47 PM (rev. 2 of 03-20-16 10:47 PM) Link | #68950
probably a trend opposite to that of exploiting global warming to generate buzz (or sell bullshit, there's a fair amount of commercial bullshit that exploits ecology as a pretext)

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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 03-21-16 05:50 PM Link | #68983
Google is probably a poor little "job creator" and environmentalism kills job creation!

Oh man, is Google the reason Youtube takes forever to browse through? Even when I'm using a powerful 8-core computer, the damn thing takes several full seconds to load before I can do anything. Saying "it's poorly" coded doesn't seem to be enough for me. Try explaining it in layperson terms?

P.S. you know how you said three embedded videos are the limit? I think it should be reduced to two, honestly.

Arisotura
Posted on 03-21-16 06:03 PM Link | #68984
1. Hipsterscript -- do everything with it
2. spread all the content over a billion separate servers
3. god forbid you run any JS before everything has fully loaded, because that's "bad" somehow


et voila, you have Youtube

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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 03-21-16 06:15 PM Link | #68985
Was it always like this? Or only when Google arrived and mucked it up? I'm not sure because I didn't use Youtube a lot back then.

Arisotura
Posted on 03-22-16 08:20 PM Link | #69008
I don't remember having trouble with it back then, it's pretty much that Google's Youtube team is vastly incompetent

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Baby Luigi
Posted on 03-22-16 11:35 PM Link | #69012
I still remember the times where YouTube had personalized channels.
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