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Arisotura
Posted on 01-05-15 06:11 PM Link | #53922
Here it is.

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Actual Acmlmboard, not just a layout change. Well, this is a HTML mockup, but you get the point.


Even though this isn't 100% decided yet, I figure I can't just come in and say "hey we're switching to board software X because why not". Better say more about what that would change.

We might not switch to Acmlmboard, we might not even switch at all, but the following changes will take place.


Different user/user communication

Profile comments are going byebye. When they aren't used by derps who say hi or post crap, they're used for conversation that could very well go in PMs or on IRC. Not to mention how tricky it can get to follow a profile-comment conversation given how they're typically split across two profiles or more. Timestamps do help, but it's still a pain.

To compensate, the new board would feature a PM system that is basically private threads, like at GBAtemp (and like bitBoard had, too). Basically, start a conversation with selected users, and it's like a thread, except private. No more tons of separate PMs, no more huge quote pyramids, following conversations with this is a charm.


Different post layouts

Custom post layout sidebars are going byebye.

Post layouts are nice, but it's also nice to keep some uniformity on the board. Not to mention that most of the layouts that make use of sidebars are the same "fixed background on the whole post table" shit.


Goodbye display names

Another one where people will complain.

Yes, display names are cool, they let you change your name without requiring an admin to do it, but they have their share of issues.

* display name change abusers (I shall not give names, you know who you are)
* quote tags work by username, it's weird, but any attempt at implementing displaynames in them would be a trainwreck
* does login take displaynames?
* online users are sorted by username only
* and more generally they add overcomplication everywhere


Mood avatars

You probably noticed that the screenshot lacks that link; no, they're not going byebye. I'm not sure yet, but they might be integrated in the edit profile page at some point.


Sidebar crapo

If people really want the Blargboard layout, I could always implement it as an alternate layout. I don't quite feel like going against that poll I made so uh.


There are more changes planned but they probably don't interest you.

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Stygmax
Posted on 01-05-15 06:22 PM (rev. 2 of 01-05-15 06:22 PM) Link | #53923
I don't like this at all. Sorry.

It seems like this is taking away everything that made Kuribo64 so unique and charming to use after the update. Why is this so unsatisfactory to you? I haven't seen anyone with serious problems about the board software, aside from occasional gripes about the sidebar. Wasn't there a poll about this? Didn't the vast majority of people vote to maintain the status quo?

I'm not someone who uses the display name changer a lot, although I do like my layout and many others on the board utilizing the sidebar. This seems like it's a personal preference of yours that you're trying to force on the entire board - once again, I've seen nobody complain about this. That's why there's a "Block Layout" option for individual users. Also, the user comments have no reason at all to be removed. It's a little clunky, but I don't see why this means it has to go instead of being integrated with PMs or something.

I disagree with this entirely. Not a single facet of this decision resonates correctly with me, besides possibly the personal thread idea for PMs. Then again, it's just my opinion, and do what you will. I'm just putting in my two cents.
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Arisotura
Posted on 01-05-15 06:25 PM (rev. 2 of 01-05-15 06:28 PM) Link | #53924
You have to realize that guests don't get to block layouts. And they're unaware that they can do so if they register, too. This is why the board must maintain some visual integrity to guests. You don't want them to get a bad impression because they fall across one or two crap layouts.


Give me one reason why profile comments should stay? In my opinion they don't really bring anything that PM threads wouldn't. Oh, actually, there's something. It's a quick way of telling something to another user. Well uh...

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Stygmax
Posted on 01-05-15 06:30 PM Link | #53925
Posted by StapleButter
You have to realize that guests don't get to block layouts. And they're unaware that they can do so if they register, too. This is why the board must maintain some visual integrity to guests. You don't want them to get a bad impression because they fall across one or two crap layouts.


Give me one reason why profile comments should stay? In my opinion they don't really bring anything that PM threads wouldn't.


Guests being off-put by layouts is a much less significant problem than you seem to think it is. Also, you can make very crap layouts without having the sidebar, believe me. The thing about profile comments was more about "why shouldn't they stay", but that's something I honestly wouldn't be very upset about if they were removed.

To be honest, I'm less concerned about what changes are being made than I am with why they are being made at all when it was made clear that most people don't want them to be.
Status: It was really, really fun, guys - thanks for the ride!

Arisotura
Posted on 01-05-15 06:34 PM Link | #53926
The part where 'most people don't want them to be' is about the board's overall layout. No matter what is done, the Blargboard layout will stay available; I'd hate to pull a Google on the community.


The part about sidebars is a tricky one too. I'm well aware that it's possible to make crap layouts no matter what, but without the sidebars, the crap is atleast confined to the part that holds the user's post. The rest of the post box is part of the board interface, so imo it's better if that stays consistent.

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Stomatol
Posted on 01-05-15 06:34 PM Link | #53927
I'm all for this. While Blargboard was unique and charming in the begging it has turned into something else with all these derp boards using it.
I would miss profile comments a bit, but with the new PM system it wouldn't matter too much. I'm not really a big fan of display names either, seeing as how they are often abused. If you'd really want to change your name it's always possible to ask an admin to edit it.
If the Blargboard layout is available as an alternative, I think it would make people who prefer that happy as well.

Stygmax
Posted on 01-05-15 06:36 PM Link | #53928
Posted by StapleButter
The part where 'most people don't want them to be' is about the board's overall layout. No matter what is done, the Blargboard layout will stay available; I'd hate to pull a Google on the community.


The part about sidebars is a tricky one too. I'm well aware that it's possible to make crap layouts no matter what, but without the sidebars, the crap is atleast confined to the part that holds the user's post. The rest of the post box is part of the board interface, so imo it's better if that stays consistent.


Oh, ok. I guess I misinterpreted the last part of the post.

I feel like most layouts would be made pretty ugly when constricted like that, IDK. I guess I'll see how it works, but I'm still not all for that.
Status: It was really, really fun, guys - thanks for the ride!

Arisotura
Posted on 01-05-15 06:38 PM Link | #53929
Posted by Stomatol
I'm all for this. While Blargboard was unique and charming in the begging it has turned into something else with all these derp boards using it.
I would miss profile comments a bit, but with the new PM system it wouldn't matter too much. I'm not really a big fan of display names either, seeing as how they are often abused. If you'd really want to change your name it's always possible to ask an admin to edit it.
If the Blargboard layout is available as an alternative, I think it would make people who prefer that happy as well.

Yeah, that too, as I said in the other thread. Kuribo64 looks pretty similar to all the derpboards out there, and I'm not a fan of that at all.


I said it wasn't sure that we'd use Acmlmboard, might as well use something entirely new for the 'unique and charming' part or for the sake of getting a codebase that would satisfy me. But you know how it goes, making forum software isn't easy shit.

Posted by Stygmax
Posted by StapleButter
The part where 'most people don't want them to be' is about the board's overall layout. No matter what is done, the Blargboard layout will stay available; I'd hate to pull a Google on the community.


The part about sidebars is a tricky one too. I'm well aware that it's possible to make crap layouts no matter what, but without the sidebars, the crap is atleast confined to the part that holds the user's post. The rest of the post box is part of the board interface, so imo it's better if that stays consistent.


Oh, ok. I guess I misinterpreted the last part of the post.

I feel like most layouts would be made pretty ugly when constricted like that, IDK. I guess I'll see how it works, but I'm still not all for that.

You can check out boards like Jul or Board2 regarding that aspect. After all, Acmlmboard has worked this way for ages.

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Yami
Posted on 01-05-15 06:39 PM Link | #53930
So, summarised, all the changes are about only 1 thing...
Staple: "Do you want more, or fewer Features"?
Public: "FEWER, FEWER, FEWER"!

But seriously, although I don't use Custom Post Layouts myself (due to the lack of creativity), I still find it a really nice Feature to have.
By the time, Acmlm Board (the original one) was created, this was the ultimate USP (although they never really sold it), as nobody else had this Feature.
Removing this will make people less interested to come, to this Forums, in my opinion.

I do agree about the Display Names and Profile Comments thing.
At least, Profile Comments here aren't as confusing, as they are, on ABXD (because, no Time/Date).

Arisotura
Posted on 01-05-15 06:42 PM (rev. 2 of 01-05-15 06:42 PM) Link | #53931
People come to this board because of the contents mainly. Post layouts are a bonus.

Or a malus when they suck.


Besides I didn't say layouts would be completely removed. Just the part about customizable sidebars.

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melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is

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Anthe
Posted on 01-05-15 07:07 PM Link | #53932
Post layouts suck haha. They create like this giant mess of non fitting themes and stuff. Thank the ABXD gods for the block button.

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SunakazeKun
Posted on 01-05-15 09:18 PM Link | #53943
I'm quite happy with the new design. Will the IRC return?



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Stomatol
Posted on 01-05-15 09:21 PM Link | #53944
Uh, the IRC have always been available AFAIK? It's just that you need to get a real client to get on it now, since mibbit was banned

Arisotura
Posted on 01-05-15 09:24 PM Link | #53945
Doubtful. Web-based IRC clients are a big indoor for eyeamamoron, PJIRC no longer works, and all the equivalents are shareware or suck.

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NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul
melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is

zafkflzdasd

SquidEmpress
Posted on 01-05-15 10:25 PM Link | #53948
As I said earlier in the IRC, I suggest replacing the current badge system with an Acmlmboard one. Currently, the ABXD/Blargboard badge system is just a platinum/gold/silver/bronze text background strip. For those who don't know, the Acmlmboard badge system has each badge as its own unique graphic with its own description and even effects such as allowing you view <---HTML comments---> (which, as you can see, currently doesn't work). The Acmlmboard badge system also gives out badges for each 1 million views. So the next view count badge would be 4 million views.

I'm completely fine with the planned changes. SquidEmpress is my username and the only reason I use Squiddy as my displayname is because it is a nickname people call me. But I could care less about displaynames.

As for mood avatars, the Acmlmboard 2 style would work better for implementing editing mood avatars since it has rows consisting of six avatars each rather than list them all vertically with a lot of extra space.

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skyl
Posted on 01-05-15 11:16 PM (rev. 2 of 01-05-15 11:16 PM) Link | #53961
I'm fine with the other changes, but we need to have customizable post sidebars.

Your layout has a customized sidebar.

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Arisotura
Posted on 01-05-15 11:23 PM Link | #53962
Personally I wouldn't miss it. This layout is over 5 years old anyway, I need a new one.

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NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul
melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is

zafkflzdasd

Yami
Posted on 01-05-15 11:41 PM Link | #53963
Posted by SquidEmpress
<---HTML comments---> (which, as you can see, currently doesn't work).

I'm entirely sure, your 'HTML Comment Tag' is wrong.

<!--It's supposed to be like this.-->

Arisotura
Posted on 01-05-15 11:42 PM Link | #53964
Doesn't matter, that's not this thread's topic.


I want more opinions on the change, really. I'm not going to do it if people hate it.

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NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul
melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is

zafkflzdasd

LifeMushroom
Posted on 01-06-15 01:11 AM Link | #53967
I think it would be nice, like a step up. I don't think display names should go, IMO. I'm pretty fond of this Item Shop. Posts for 'coins', and they could buy stuff like display names, etc. +1's could also give coins, and maybe a donation center. I'd say go for it.
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