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Posted on 11-02-14 06:37 AM Link | #50599
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Last view: 1957 days ago 		I don't know whether this sort of thing would be in demand, but I might be able to make an app for PC that can do those sorts of things, as well as maybe scripting and other stuff. Would anyone use that? It would probably be more useful with Dolphin.

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Last view: 824 days ago 		LemASM is usefull for asm hacking, but its a pain to use.

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LemASM is for MIPS which is used in N64 games.


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Posted on 11-02-14 06:45 AM Link | #50603
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I'd certaintly try to use it! (I might actually get somewhere, I have access to a boatload of books on Assembler, which AFAIK isn't too different from assembly). Eh...I can't imagine myself getting very far with it, though...

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Posted by JwopDk
Yeah, I was kind of thinking of something like LemASM, except not broken and more useful.

http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=73708 maybe?

its made for mario 64 but it can be used for everything actually, it just assembles your code into the rom. but I do not know if the program wants to open other files then only n64 files.

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Yeah, I was kind of thinking of something like LemASM, except not broken and more useful.

http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=73708 maybe?

its made for mario 64 but it can be used for everything actually, it just assembles your code into the rom. but I do not know if the program wants to open other files then only n64 files.

Since when can Riivolution patch DOLs, anyways?

JwopDk
Posted on 11-02-14 07:42 AM (rev. 2 of 11-02-14 07:51 AM) Link | #50609
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Since when can Riivolution patch DOLs, anyways?


I don't know if it can or not, regardless this would work well with an emulator.

http://www.smwcentral.net/?p=viewthread&t=73708 maybe?

its made for mario 64 but it can be used for everything actually, it just assembles your code into the rom. but I do not know if the program wants to open other files then only n64 files.


I think that was what partially inspired me to start making this program. It looks pretty good, I might take some ideas and notes from it.
This program, which I think I'll call "Dolphin Force", will have more of an emphasis on editing a DOL/ELF file rather than being strictly an assembler, although from closer inspection, CajeASM looks like it's more than that.

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Posted on 11-02-14 07:52 AM (rev. 2 of 11-02-14 07:53 AM) Link | #50610
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Posted by JwopDk
Since when can Riivolution patch DOLs, anyways?


I don't know if it can or not, regardless this would work well with an emulator

Well Riivolution can't.

Yay, Dolphin-exclusive content! Fun! Lag! Crashes! I can't wait to switch to Dolphin even though it lags beyond comprehension on most computers, crashes every 15 seconds, and CAN'T EVEN READ OR WRITE SAVE FILES on my computer. My point is, it may work well on Dolphin, but Dolphin itself doesn't work well...atleast, not for most people.

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Posted on 11-02-14 08:01 AM Link | #50611
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Yay, Dolphin-exclusive content! Fun! Lag! Crashes! I can't wait to switch to Dolphin even though it lags beyond comprehension on most computers, crashes every 15 seconds, and CAN'T EVEN READ OR WRITE SAVE FILES on my computer. My point is, it may work well on Dolphin, but Dolphin itself doesn't work well...atleast, not for most people.


1) That's not my problem, 2) GC/Wii emulation will get smoother, faster with newer hardware, and less buggy over the years, so that won't really be an issue forever. Besides, I'm pretty sure most people interested in Dolphin now have PCs that game play games at at least 70% speed, and really, that's probably enough for now.

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Posted on 11-02-14 08:08 AM Link | #50612
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Posted by JwopDk
Yay, Dolphin-exclusive content! Fun! Lag! Crashes! I can't wait to switch to Dolphin even though it lags beyond comprehension on most computers, crashes every 15 seconds, and CAN'T EVEN READ OR WRITE SAVE FILES on my computer. My point is, it may work well on Dolphin, but Dolphin itself doesn't work well...atleast, not for most people.

...most people interested in Dolphin now have PCs that game play games at at least 70% speed...

*REALLY LOUD CRYING*
EVERY TIME SOMEBODY MENTIONS DOLPHIN, SOMEBODY SAYS THAT...I'm proof that it isn't true...I can't afford a decent enough computer to run Wii Games on Dolphin at anything above 27% speed...

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Posted on 11-02-14 08:46 AM Link | #50615
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Posted by Splitwirez
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Yay, Dolphin-exclusive content! Fun! Lag! Crashes! I can't wait to switch to Dolphin even though it lags beyond comprehension on most computers, crashes every 15 seconds, and CAN'T EVEN READ OR WRITE SAVE FILES on my computer. My point is, it may work well on Dolphin, but Dolphin itself doesn't work well...atleast, not for most people.

...most people interested in Dolphin now have PCs that game play games at at least 70% speed...

*REALLY LOUD CRYING*
EVERY TIME SOMEBODY MENTIONS DOLPHIN, SOMEBODY SAYS THAT...I'm proof that it isn't true...I can't afford a decent enough computer to run Wii Games on Dolphin at anything above 27% speed...

Please. Dolphin works just fine. Also, Riivolution is indeed able to patch dol files. *cough cough Newer*

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Posted on 11-02-14 08:48 AM Link | #50617
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Yay, Dolphin-exclusive content! Fun! Lag! Crashes! I can't wait to switch to Dolphin even though it lags beyond comprehension on most computers, crashes every 15 seconds, and CAN'T EVEN READ OR WRITE SAVE FILES on my computer. My point is, it may work well on Dolphin, but Dolphin itself doesn't work well...atleast, not for most people.

...most people interested in Dolphin now have PCs that game play games at at least 70% speed...

*REALLY LOUD CRYING*
EVERY TIME SOMEBODY MENTIONS DOLPHIN, SOMEBODY SAYS THAT...I'm proof that it isn't true...I can't afford a decent enough computer to run Wii Games on Dolphin at anything above 27% speed...

Please. Dolphin works just fine. Also, Riivolution is indeed able to patch dol files. *cough cough Newer*

Yes, it does...for you, evidently. But not everyone is in that position. I thought Newer used a shitspam of Riivo ASM patches. Guess I was wrong!

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Posted on 11-02-14 09:13 AM Link | #50618

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Last view: 27 days ago 		Newer is a compiled library of edited code from the game, into binary files that are read. With some patches, but I don't think it's a shitspam.

Also, hah. Have fun with the program. IDA Pro is a crashy program but it still works, but I would much rather convert assembly to C/C++ by hand because it's more reliable.

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Posted on 11-02-14 09:17 AM Link | #50620
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Newer is a compiled library of edited code from the game, into binary files that are read. With some patches, but I don't think it's a shitspam.

Shitspam was a metaphor, and a rather insulting one, at that, now that I think about it. I take it back. Presumably it's rather orderly, or something...I would think.

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...I would much rather convert assembly to C/C++ by hand because it's more reliable.

Wow, impressive! You never cease to blow my mind.

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Posted on 11-04-14 01:34 PM Link | #50781
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Posted by Splitwirez
I have access to a boatload of books on Assembler, which AFAIK isn't too different from assembly). Eh...I can't imagine myself getting very far with it, though...


Uh...assembler and assembly mean the same thing in this context. Assembly is the correct term, while assembler is what illiterate idiots use.

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I have access to a boatload of books on Assembler, which AFAIK isn't too different from assembly). Eh...I can't imagine myself getting very far with it, though...


Uh...assembler and assembly mean the same thing in this context. Assembly is the correct term, while assembler is what illiterate idiots use.

Um...so illiterate idiots call it assembler in this context? Or in general?

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I have access to a boatload of books on Assembler, which AFAIK isn't too different from assembly). Eh...I can't imagine myself getting very far with it, though...


Uh...assembler and assembly mean the same thing in this context. Assembly is the correct term, while assembler is what illiterate idiots use.

Um...so illiterate idiots call it assembler in this context? Or in general?


In general. Assembly is the language and assembler is what turns it into machine code, but for whatever reason, some people like to say assembler to refer to the language. But uh, this isn't really on topic anymore.

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I have access to a boatload of books on Assembler, which AFAIK isn't too different from assembly). Eh...I can't imagine myself getting very far with it, though...


Uh...assembler and assembly mean the same thing in this context. Assembly is the correct term, while assembler is what illiterate idiots use.

Um...so illiterate idiots call it assembler in this context? Or in general?


In general. Assembly is the language and assembler is what turns it into machine code, but for whatever reason, some people like to say assembler to refer to the language. But uh, this isn't really on topic anymore.

Sorry. Just that my Mom used to work with assembler, mainframes, punch cards, etc. so can you see how that could've been offensive?

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I have access to a boatload of books on Assembler, which AFAIK isn't too different from assembly). Eh...I can't imagine myself getting very far with it, though...


Uh...assembler and assembly mean the same thing in this context. Assembly is the correct term, while assembler is what illiterate idiots use.

Um...so illiterate idiots call it assembler in this context? Or in general?


In general. Assembly is the language and assembler is what turns it into machine code, but for whatever reason, some people like to say assembler to refer to the language. But uh, this isn't really on topic anymore.

Sorry. Just that my Mom used to work with assembler, mainframes, punch cards, etc. so can you see how that could've been offensive?


Well, it's not her fault if she had to use the terminology that others were using.
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