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Timmy
Posted on 01-22-14 09:35 PM Link | #37906
Yeah I'm gonna agree with Gridattack, I think it's fake (to be honest though the best fake I've seen) because the outlines don't seem... consistent. =P

I haven't played any Kid Icarus games but I wouldn't mind having Palutena in, to be honest.

Also I want my Ness revealed already ;~;

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gridatttack
Posted on 01-22-14 09:41 PM Link | #37907
Now I wonder something. I have been avoiding pics because I dont want to spoil myself, and another thing we could look to debunk it is if the pic where mario and palutena is, exist an official pic that includes mario and someone else (which in this case that character was replaced by palutena)
You could just edit the image, slap palutena, and view the image in the photo viewer to make it look legit (but I never used the photo viewer, so IDK if they are some options at the top of the screen while viewing the image)

Also, even though it isnt an official model, it can be a model someone else did (look at the custom lucina model used to trick people :P)
But that model looks official. Its well done.

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blimpfruit00
Posted on 01-22-14 10:40 PM Link | #37909
After reading gridatttack's post, I have to agree that it seems fake. Sorry, Kid Icarus fans, it looks like Palutena will only appear in Pit's final smash.

gridatttack
Posted on 01-22-14 11:16 PM Link | #37910
Posted by GrapeEscape
Posted by gridatttack
Now I wonder something. I have been avoiding pics because I dont want to spoil myself, and another thing we could look to debunk it is if the pic where mario and palutena is, exist an official pic that includes mario and someone else (which in this case that character was replaced by palutena)
You could just edit the image, slap palutena, and view the image in the photo viewer to make it look legit (but I never used the photo viewer, so IDK if they are some options at the top of the screen while viewing the image)

Also, even though it isnt an official model, it can be a model someone else did (look at the custom lucina model used to trick people :P)
But that model looks official. Its well done.


"Slap Palutena". Now how exactly would slapping her magically make her appear in the image? But in all seriousness, I highly doubt that this image is real. It's a very elaborate fake, but some people really will just go the extra mile to make it look official and everything. Besides, remember when there was discussion about that whole Ness leak back in the day? That was really done, too, and all screenshots were ON THE 3DS VERSION, so I have my doubts. It also got debunked in just a few days, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the same case here.


Oh, seems like I've eaten some word again :P I meant in, as slap palutena in the image (via photoshop, whatever)

Also im sure sakurai has strict control to not let any leaks happen. (inb4 the game leaks over and he cancels the game :P)

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MK7tester
Posted on 01-23-14 12:01 AM Link | #37911
Posted by blimpfruit00
After reading gridatttack's post, I have to agree that it seems fake. Sorry, Kid Icarus fans, it looks like Palutena will only appear in Pit's final smash.


Althought i certainly hope she's not, just because there was a fake doesn't mean she wont be in the game. The best I could do is an assist trophy, but making her a character is just like giving the kid icarus series more fighters because Pit is the only one. Maybe next game a playable. Although knowing sakurai's fangasm to kid icarus, she probably will be playable. :S

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MarioMaster720
Posted on 01-23-14 10:51 AM Link | #37917
Posted by gridatttack
Interesting. More new characters, rather than veterans which people already played with them the past game(s) :P

But on closer look, it looks fake. See Palutena's outlines and compare them to Mario's outline. Unless you can set the outline thickness per character or the characters normally have different default outline thickness, I say its fake.


Well Sakurai said that you can adjust the outlines or make them disappear, so that doesn't help debunking it much.

And the Ness & Jigglypuff pic looked pretty real too, although it had a major flaw in it: Ness did not have a shadow (and apparently Jigglypuff was "too blurry". I don't really see any obvious flaws in this picture so far.

It's most likely fake yes, but it's honestly the most real-looking of the SSB4 rumours.

(and I still don't get why someone would make a original model just to make 2 fake pics. At least the Lucina model from a previous rumour was actually made for a seperate brawl hack made by a different person, and the picture was actually taken from Brawl).

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MeTheMarioMan
Posted on 01-23-14 05:52 PM Link | #37927
I agree that the picture is fake because I just don't see Sakurai leaking any pictures of characters or new things while the game is still in development. But like Starlight said, maybe she'll be released from Sakurai for real one day...

MK7tester
Posted on 01-23-14 07:04 PM (rev. 3 of 01-23-14 07:05 PM) Link | #37930
Posted by GrapeEscape
Posted by Silver
Posted by blimpfruit00
After reading gridatttack's post, I have to agree that it seems fake. Sorry, Kid Icarus fans, it looks like Palutena will only appear in Pit's final smash.


Althought i certainly hope she's not, just because there was a fake doesn't mean she wont be in the game. The best I could do is an assist trophy, but making her a character is just like giving the kid icarus series more fighters because Pit is the only one. Maybe next game a playable. Although knowing sakurai's fangasm to kid icarus, she probably will be playable. :S


He did direct Kid Icarus: Uprising, y'know. I'm assuming that this is going to be another case of Kirby and that we're going to get two new Kid Icarus newcomers in the same game. It's probably going to be Magnus and Palutena, but I don't think that the pictures we're seeing here are actually early leaks.


Yeah but Sakurai waited till Brawl to put MetaKnight and Dedede in. Which was fine. This seems to early, to base three characters on a series that only has like two games. I just think other series deserve another character more...like uhh... F-Zero or something (dunno)

Gmanextreme9
Posted on 01-23-14 09:25 PM Link | #37935
Samurai Goroh!!! Though, I can't really see a move set for him.

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-31-14 07:38 AM Link | #38156

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LOOK WHO'S BACK!!! Seriously, I thought he was going to be cut out. I am somewhat disappointed in having this character return.

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Tahcryon
Posted on 01-31-14 08:36 AM Link | #38157
Wow, that's a shocker. I didn't think he'd come back. Then again, the more characters, the better, in my opinion.

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MK7tester
Posted on 01-31-14 09:26 AM Link | #38158
Posted by Polari
Wow, that's a shocker. I didn't think he'd come back. Then again, the more characters, the better, in my opinion.

You've got it wrong, this whole Lucario is back thing is making the chances of mewtwo coming back less ;-;, Sakurai won't have more characters, he'll simply cut characters. Why? Because he for some reason doesn't like taking use of Wii U's extra power.

MarioMaster720
Posted on 01-31-14 10:07 AM (rev. 5 of 01-31-14 10:10 AM) Link | #38159
Posted by Silver
Posted by Polari
Wow, that's a shocker. I didn't think he'd come back. Then again, the more characters, the better, in my opinion.

You've got it wrong, this whole Lucario is back thing is making the chances of mewtwo coming back less ;-;, Sakurai won't have more characters, he'll simply cut characters. Why? Because he for some reason doesn't like taking use of Wii U's extra power.


That doesn't mean it at all. Who says Mewtwo and Lucario can't be together (they can just replace the Pokemon Trainer with Mewtwo). IMO Lucario returning only makes Mewtwo's inclusion more likely, since they both have Mega Evos, have been prominent and I think even Nintendo knows that Lucario vs Mewtwo is any Smash fanboy's wet dream.

NOTE: The following rant is targeted at fanboys in general. I'm not referring to SSL (even though I quoted his post above)

People forget that unlike people like Dr. Mario, Pichu, Young/Toon Link and the like, Lucario IS NOT a clone of Mewtwo. Their movesets are completely different. All they have similar is the neutral B (Shadow Ball/Aura Sphere) and a similiar but still different Forward Smash. THAT IS ALL! (and the fact that they are from the same franchise)

Mewtwo has literally no relation to Mewtwo. Its like saying that R.O.B replaced Dr. Mario in Brawl and that Lucas replaced Pichu -_-

And I still don't understand why people want Mewtwo. He looks cool, but that's about it. He SUCKED in Melee and has multiple times been considered the worst character in the game (even worse than PICHU). I just started playing Melee again and I was incredibly disappointed with Mewtwo. The only thing he's got are great throws, great recovery and great projectile. EVERYTHING else is bad. His down smash is the worst in the game, he is easy as fuck to juggle, he is light and yet tall (the worst combination), his side-B is the worst reflector in the game (and generally useless) and while Disable can be used its really situational and will almost never work well on any people with any sort of skills. Oh, and his aerial attack suck. Hard (only remotely useful one is his forward air, which is just a worse version of well EVERYONE else's forward airs)

Lucario however was a great character, and is considered very high-tier. He has a unique gimmick that is useful, he actually has usable Aerials (Mewtwo gets my vote for worst Melee Aerials HANDS DOWN), good recovery (although Mewtwo had slightly better), good weight/height, usable finishers and all his Specials are useful except maybe for Double Team (which is still better than Confusion).

In short, the people who think that Lucario instantly means No Mewtwo, that Lucario is a clone of Mewtwo and that Mewtwo is superior character can go F*** THEMSELVES HARD!

Sorry for this rant but this is the hard truth that people have to understand and I get pissed off when casuals attack a very unique and good character just because they like a hardly-usable, worse one better.

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- So Apparently Norway is rich while Denmark and Sweden are happy. What they don't know is that our wealth gives us happiness as well :D : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfA4EbJCEAAsJfG.png:large

mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-31-14 10:14 AM Link | #38160
Posted by Silver
Posted by Polari
Wow, that's a shocker. I didn't think he'd come back. Then again, the more characters, the better, in my opinion.

You've got it wrong, this whole Lucario is back thing is making the chances of mewtwo coming back less ;-;, Sakurai won't have more characters, he'll simply cut characters. Why? Because he for some reason doesn't like taking use of Wii U's extra power.


The reason he is having less characters is because of the 3ds memory limit. He wants the 3ds and Wii U to have the same characters

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 01-31-14 11:21 AM Link | #38161
Posted by mariogalaxythree
Posted by Silver
Posted by Polari
Wow, that's a shocker. I didn't think he'd come back. Then again, the more characters, the better, in my opinion.

You've got it wrong, this whole Lucario is back thing is making the chances of mewtwo coming back less ;-;, Sakurai won't have more characters, he'll simply cut characters. Why? Because he for some reason doesn't like taking use of Wii U's extra power.


The reason he is having less characters is because of the 3ds memory limit. He wants the 3ds and Wii U to have the same characters

They HAVE to have the same characters, regardless of if they're playable, simply because of online and compatibility. It needs a model to render when you're playing a version that "doesn't have it" so either way they want to keep the download size to a reasonable limit for eshop purposes. Like how they had to have a dual layer disc for brawl :P

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Gmanextreme9
Posted on 01-31-14 01:41 PM Link | #38165
I'm actually neutral with Lucario. I thought they would replace him, but i'm not disappointed because he was a little fun to play as.

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gridatttack
Posted on 01-31-14 03:38 PM Link | #38176
lol lucario.

Now watch mega mewtwo X being in the game ;P

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MK7tester
Posted on 01-31-14 08:59 PM (rev. 4 of 01-31-14 09:07 PM) Link | #38180
Posted by MarioMaster720
Posted by Silver
Posted by Polari
Wow, that's a shocker. I didn't think he'd come back. Then again, the more characters, the better, in my opinion.

You've got it wrong, this whole Lucario is back thing is making the chances of mewtwo coming back less ;-;, Sakurai won't have more characters, he'll simply cut characters. Why? Because he for some reason doesn't like taking use of Wii U's extra power.


That doesn't mean it at all. Who says Mewtwo and Lucario can't be together (they can just replace the Pokemon Trainer with Mewtwo). IMO Lucario returning only makes Mewtwo's inclusion more likely, since they both have Mega Evos, have been prominent and I think even Nintendo knows that Lucario vs Mewtwo is any Smash fanboy's wet dream.

NOTE: The following rant is targeted at fanboys in general. I'm not referring to SSL (even though I quoted his post above)

People forget that unlike people like Dr. Mario, Pichu, Young/Toon Link and the like, Lucario IS NOT a clone of Mewtwo. Their movesets are completely different. All they have similar is the neutral B (Shadow Ball/Aura Sphere) and a similiar but still different Forward Smash. THAT IS ALL! (and the fact that they are from the same franchise)

Mewtwo has literally no relation to Mewtwo. Its like saying that R.O.B replaced Dr. Mario in Brawl and that Lucas replaced Pichu -_-

And I still don't understand why people want Mewtwo. He looks cool, but that's about it. He SUCKED in Melee and has multiple times been considered the worst character in the game (even worse than PICHU). I just started playing Melee again and I was incredibly disappointed with Mewtwo. The only thing he's got are great throws, great recovery and great projectile. EVERYTHING else is bad. His down smash is the worst in the game, he is easy as fuck to juggle, he is light and yet tall (the worst combination), his side-B is the worst reflector in the game (and generally useless) and while Disable can be used its really situational and will almost never work well on any people with any sort of skills. Oh, and his aerial attack suck. Hard (only remotely useful one is his forward air, which is just a worse version of well EVERYONE else's forward airs)

Lucario however was a great character, and is considered very high-tier. He has a unique gimmick that is useful, he actually has usable Aerials (Mewtwo gets my vote for worst Melee Aerials HANDS DOWN), good recovery (although Mewtwo had slightly better), good weight/height, usable finishers and all his Specials are useful except maybe for Double Team (which is still better than Confusion).

In short, the people who think that Lucario instantly means No Mewtwo, that Lucario is a clone of Mewtwo and that Mewtwo is superior character can go F*** THEMSELVES HARD!

Sorry for this rant but this is the hard truth that people have to understand and I get pissed off when casuals attack a very unique and good character just because they like a hardly-usable, worse one better.


Hmm...this post, it's very inconsiderate and it makes me angry, but i'll try to reply calmly

Some people like mewtwo better, don't call us fanboys just because we prefer mewtwo over lucario. I never called you a fanboy for always being on Nintendo's side even when it's clear they are at fault. :P

So uh...just because we prefer mewtwo better does not make us "fanboys"

Yeah, that's all I have to say

I hope Mewtwo returns! :P
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