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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 09-21-13 09:19 PM Link | #32847
Ok. Here is an idea I have. It could either really help us, or really hurt us, but it is still worth putting out there.
So basically, we would divide up our normal users into 2 power levels. The two power levels are:

-New Members. Basically, they would be able to post, comment on profiles, and send PM's, and do all the normal stuff normal users can do, except make new threads. Often, new threads by new members are just for asking stupid questions or are spam. We do get exceptions, but this system will eliminate almost ALL spambots as an added bonus. They can ask to post a thread to get permission, and if they have proved themselves, will be promoted to the next stage of normal users.

-Normal Members. Everything a normal member can do now. But normal members can be demoted to New Members if they post derp threads, or threads that are purely Postcount+++. So being demoted to a New Member could be an alternative to getting banned. Many users make threads asking a stupid question, and it often gets closed/trashed. With this new system, we could potentially clean up our thread quality and only let the good users post threads.

So, what do you think? This is just an idea. And we are NOT trying to discriminate. If a new user has a good thread to post, they can talk to an admin and get the perms to post a thread.

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shibboleet
Posted on 09-21-13 09:21 PM Link | #32848
...the fuck?
I really don't like this idea, tbh. Because it sounds too complicated for the regular system.

It's mostly common sense to not make a stupid thread, and so the user would be banned.

So, IMO, this is kinda useless.

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 09-21-13 09:22 PM Link | #32849
I see what you are thinking, but the thing is, many users post derp threads because they don't know any better. And we DON'T want derp threads. So this is the best way to fix it.

When you ban one derp user, two more will take its place.

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shibboleet
Posted on 09-21-13 09:23 PM (rev. 3 of 09-21-13 09:24 PM) Link | #32850
And then ban the derps.
Simple.
<MrRean> Just ban idiots for not using common sense...


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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 09-21-13 09:24 PM Link | #32851
MrRean when was the last time you saw a new user register and make the best thread ever? No.

Usually the best threads are from longtime members.

I made a somewhat derp thread as my first post when I joined, so I know what its like :3

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Agent000
Posted on 09-21-13 09:36 PM Link | #32852
I'm not liking this idea. I agree we do get derp threads, but we simply need those to be deleted efficiently so we don't have huge piles of them. But for every 20 derp threads we get, we also get a thread by a new member who has a really good idea or can help us a lot, and I don't think that's worth giving up.

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shibboleet
Posted on 09-21-13 09:37 PM (rev. 5 of 09-21-13 09:55 PM) Link | #32853
Why would you make a whole new "system" just for something that uses common sense? It's really simple to know to not make stupid threads...


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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 09-21-13 09:38 PM (rev. 2 of 09-21-13 09:41 PM) Link | #32854
MrRean do you really need to bring that here? You are just gonna cause a shitfest, so just stop.

And if you are gonna post that quote, at least post the whole damn thing. You are taking a tiny part of a large list of quotes to show that I look bad.

EDIT: I see that you have posted the whole thing.

But my point still stands. I was not looking for power. If I was, I would have asked MM for admin right now. I'm just saying I could be up to the task of making this new system work.

But Blarg.

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gc
Posted on 09-21-13 09:41 PM (rev. 3 of 09-21-13 09:43 PM) Link | #32855
Two words.
Too complicated.
Sorry.

A stickied thread that shows what not to do (with handy colors and capitals) would be helpful. For the perhaps smaller percentage of new members that actually read the site. Oh well.

Anyway, MM wouldn't approve this.

Also, no need to shit over this. Argue on the IRC. Less messy that way.

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Dodecagon
Posted on 09-21-13 09:42 PM Link | #32856
This seems rather unnecessary...just delete the irrelevant/dumb threads, simple as that. No need for a brand new system.

mariogalaxythree
Posted on 09-21-13 09:42 PM Link | #32857
We'll have to see. I actually think MM might just like this idea, as he hates it when noobs post a stupid thread as much as I do.

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MK7tester
Posted on 09-21-13 09:46 PM Link | #32858
I think this idea could be executed better rather than not letting new users post threads but yeah there's been to many derp threads lately and usually it takes awhile for a mod to see it (because it usually happens when all of the mods are asleep)

mariogalaxythree
Posted on 09-21-13 09:47 PM Link | #32860
Or maybe, we could evolve the idea into a thread approval idea. Where the thread isn't public until a mod sees it or something.

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MK7tester
Posted on 09-21-13 09:47 PM Link | #32861
Umm, yeah..maybe? It still seems a little brutal and disheartening to new users, i'm not sure for the most part.

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gridatttack
Posted on 09-21-13 10:07 PM (rev. 2 of 09-21-13 10:13 PM) Link | #32866
Derp idea. Restricting new members form making threads its stupid and the forum feels unwelcome.
We mods are constantly watching the forum, so if a derp thread comes in, we will take it ASAP.
Also, the derp threads thing isnt partially to blame the mods only. Some users here reply to the derp threads, when they shouldn't.

Also, we can accomplish the restrictions you said with the permission system, so we admins impose them individually to users who deserves them.




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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 09-21-13 10:12 PM Link | #32867
But still, wouldn't it be helpful to not have to take care of tons of users individually when you could just not worry about it at all?

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shibboleet
Posted on 09-21-13 10:13 PM Link | #32868
It's just putting a lot more pressure on the mods, though. With constant annoying pm's asking for threads to be opened. (Plus, they have to be through a revision system and everything..)

It's a bit too complicated.

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gridatttack
Posted on 09-21-13 10:14 PM Link | #32869
Posted by mariogalaxythree
But still, wouldn't it be helpful to not have to take care of tons of users individually when you could just not worry about it at all?


Thats what my duty as a mod is. To take care of those things.
If you want it easy and relaxed, then it would be better to code something that needs no mods :P

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