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cosmological
Posted on 05-24-13 01:50 PM Link | #23167
The New Design Approval System
-By Cosmological

Well guys, given that I’ve been busy with school for the past couple months I’ve sort of fallen behind. Good news is that I’m on summer break! (Except for next week when I’m going on a canoeing and camping trip in the middle of nowhere, like there isn’t even cell reception) So I’ve caught up on all of the design progress I’ve missed and it comes to mind, what happens when I’m not here, progress halts. So I think I should do something about that, and this is one of those things. The new design approval system.

Okay here’s how it works for all of you designers out there. Say you have a galaxy in mind that you’d like to design. First thing you should do is tell me or post in my other thread for Designs in Progress. That way I and others will know to be on the lookout for a new design. To subject the design for approval once you have a draft of the design you like post it in a separate thread in that galaxy’s board titled Galaxy X Star Y. For even faster turn out PM me with a link. Once you have that thread posted I or others will look at your design and see whether or not it should be approved. If it is, congratulations your design is in the final game. If it isn’t I’ll provide feedback on what I’d like to see changed to make it approval worthy (unless the design isn’t unique at all and might just be trashed). Once you make the corrections I’ll look at it again and then most likely approve it (unless I get some random idea that would be great for your design).

Here is a more streamlined version
1. Post on Design in Progress Thread to reserve your galaxy
2. Create your design by yourself or with others.
3. Put the full design on a separate thread telling which star it is
4. An approved approver (I did that on purpose :P) will check your design using the criteria that I’m about to go in-depth with.
5. Your design is approved || Your design receives edits (possibly trashed)
6. Make those edits, resubmit for approval
7. The design gets approved

Okay because I can’t be the only one who goes over the potential designs I’ll go in-depth on how I judge a design for approval and approve other members to become design approvers (no drama please, or I’ll go MM on you). So here are some of the criteria I judge designs on and some styles for making designs.

My personal favorite style of a level design is on the paragraph picture basis. This is when you make a design and to explain what happens you have a paragraph or two explaining that Mario does in a certain planet/section followed by a picture of that section. For an example check out my Toxic Terror design. You should probably use this strategy unless you can make a very detailed drawing or a very descriptive written design.

When approving a design one should think of the originality of the design in general. Before approving a design make sure that it doesn't have an overused concept from either the 2 galaxy games or other 2.5 levels, this will allow for a more fun to play game in general.

Also check difficulty, make sure that the galaxy is following the general difficulty of the world that it is in. Keep in mind that 2.5 will have a difficulty that is a bit greater than that of Galaxy 2 but not insane.
Check for length, make sure that the design isn't a 1 minute level or a 20 minute level. Its good to have varying lengths in levels but we don’t want really short or really long levels. Also make sure that there are not filler sections, make sure that it is generally fun gameplay without lapses.

The final thing to keep in mind is the theme of a galaxy. If you are designing a galaxy like Rolling Rough we don’t want Bowser’s Fleet all over that place. I personally want 2.5 to be a bit darker than other Mario games but that should mainly show in the Bowser galaxies. Make sure the design is sticking to the theme established for set galaxy and not drifting off somewhere else and could become similar to another galaxy.

Well those are the criteria I’m looking for in approving a design (I’m also writing this at 1:30 AM so I’m probably forgetting something, why do I write all these posts at 1 AM I don’t know). If you are a designer follow these criteria and it will improve the chances of your design being approved. If you are one of the approvers that I am about to disclose, follow those guidelines when approving designs.
Now for the moment that everyone’s been waiting for, who are these new approvers?
I’ve divided them up into sections based on their overruling abilities. This means that someone higher up can revoke the approval of one of the lower approvers.
Highest Approvers
-Glem3 (I can’t contest him)
-Cosmological
-Astroluma (If he ever comes back)

Other Approvers
-Polari(can revoke the these other 2’s approvals)
-Mega-Mario
-NWPlayer123

Now what I really don’t want is people causing drama because they aren’t an approver. Any whining or complaining will result in an instant 2 day ban.

Well now that you all know who can approve and what is needed for an approval. Have fun with your current and future designing endeavors.

Happy Designing
-Cosmological


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Agent000
Posted on 05-24-13 02:26 PM Link | #23168
Thank you :3

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Tahcryon
Posted on 05-24-13 02:30 PM (rev. 2 of 05-24-13 02:30 PM) Link | #23169
Good to see that this is finally up. So basically the format is something like this?
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Originality:
Difficulty:
Length:
Theme:
Other minor things:
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Then cool. Also, as said on the IRC, I probably won't be approving any written-only designs, as they barely provide any detail. Astroluma's designs were the only ones who ever came close to being that good.

Judging from my reply from cosmo, he probably won't either.

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Agent000
Posted on 05-24-13 05:05 PM Link | #23172
I'm just glad there finally is a system. Btw if you're considering me for local mod, would I be able to approve designs?

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 05-24-13 07:35 PM Link | #23175
In addition, could we have music approvers as well?

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SquidEmpress
Posted on 05-24-13 08:16 PM (rev. 2 of 05-24-13 08:22 PM) Link | #23179
I am glad that there is now a new system. I am sure that the new system will work great.

Another thing, would it be a better idea to PM a design to an approver before posting it? That way, a designer can edit their design and PM it again to an approver. Once it gets approved, the designer posts the design.

Edit: Congrats to Polari, Mega-Mario, and NWPlayer123 for becoming the newest design approvers! Good luck to all of you!

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 05-24-13 09:29 PM Link | #23182
The reason I bring up music approval is because there are songs pending approval, but Glem has been very inactive. If we could have 2 people that could also approve music, that would be much appreciated and may get music approved faster.

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GintokiPianist
Posted on 05-25-13 12:32 AM Link | #23190
im fine with glem/cosmo etc approving the music, as composers i feel will have to much investment in our own pieces, its hard to see thinks fairly all the time, and our music is something the general mario playing public should enjoy, i think its fine therefore that "non musicians" do the approving

mariogalaxythree
Posted on 05-25-13 01:31 AM Link | #23191
I am fine with that, but the reason I brought that up is because our approvers have not been online much lately, and Cosmo himself said he thought he wasn't authorized to approve my latest piece.

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gc
Posted on 05-25-13 01:50 AM Link | #23192
Ah, seems good.
POLARI CAN NOW APPROVE HIS OWN DESIGNS. NOOOOO
IMO everyone should have ONE post on the Design Progress thread to keep it clean, so everyone just edits their post for further info. Maybe.

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Tahcryon
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MarioMaster720
Posted on 05-25-13 02:56 PM Link | #23201
Anyway I guess I gotta post something here too :P
So.. I like the system too and it's great that we have one. And congratz to the approvers :D

*MarioMaster720 starts thinking about how he can bribe the approvers to instantly approve his future AC design

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shibboleet
Posted on 05-25-13 03:33 PM Link | #23206
oh wow, nice system. :P

Also, I'm the only real creator here (SSL...eh, maybe. I dunno)

and
POLARI CAN NOW APPROVE HIS OWN DESIGNS. NOOOOO

I'm pretty sure somebody else will approve his designs, not himself. :P

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 05-25-13 05:08 PM Link | #23208
I do have a concern about some of the approvers being biased on whos design they approve.

Also, has anyone seen my suggestions about having music approvers doing a similar thing?

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Tahcryon
Posted on 05-25-13 05:24 PM Link | #23212
I do have a concern about some of the approvers being biased on whos design they approve. < You know, you can just flat out say 'Polari'...

Also, I'll probably look at other people's feedback, since they might think of stuff that I didn't before. It also won't be fair if everyone gives negative feedback and I decide to approve it.

Multiple minds are better than 1.

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mariogalaxythree
Posted on 05-25-13 05:29 PM Link | #23215
It also wouldn't be fair if feedback is entirely positive, and it doesn't get approved just because the approver hates the designer.

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 05-25-13 05:30 PM (rev. 2 of 05-25-13 05:31 PM) Link | #23216
>approvers
There's multiple for a reason, silly.

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Arisotura
Posted on 06-14-13 04:47 PM Link | #25536
Nice bump. You could have just asked that in a PM, blah.

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