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Agent000
Posted on 05-17-13 01:30 PM (rev. 2 of 05-17-13 01:30 PM) Link | #22723
Guys I've noticed a distinct stagnation of progress lately. Modeling in particular is not happening (partly my fault.) But this all traces back to level designs. Until a design is approved, concept art, models, and level creation cannot happen. And since designs are not being approved, largely because those with authority to approve are not active, progress is at a standstill. We need an organized, efficient way of getting designs approved so everything else can be done. Post ideas for effective methods to get designs approved here.

Here's my idea.

Posted by Agent000
This is going to sound restrictive but hear me out:

On general level design threads, all posts not providing ideas or constructive feedback to ideas will be deleted. Then, once the thread reaches a certain length (say, 10 pages) the thread will be locked and someone must make a design for the galaxy using using ideas in the thread as well as the designer's own ideas. Once a design for all of the galaxy's stars is done, it is posted as a separate thread. All replies not providing constructive feedback to the design will be deleted. The designer uses the feedback to modify their design in their original post. The thread has until 5 pages, then it will be locked and the design submitted for approval by an active administrator. If the design is not approved, it gets 5 more thread pages for suggestions and modification, then it will be locked again for approval. And the cycle continues until the galaxy has an approved design.

I think this can be an effective, organized procedure of approval as long as enforcement of thread locking and deletion of unnecessary posts is maintained.


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Tahcryon
Posted on 05-17-13 01:31 PM Link | #22724
I personally think that the system is fine as it is, but just needs a few more people who can approve of designs. If we allow everybody to approve designs..Well, that won't work out really well.

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 05-17-13 03:36 PM Link | #22731
What designs? There are maybe 2 designs that are finished and waiting.

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Agent000
Posted on 05-17-13 03:39 PM Link | #22732
That's 2 designs that could be becoming levels right now if they were approved by an active member.

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NWPlayer123
Posted on 05-17-13 03:41 PM Link | #22733
Yesh, but even so, there's nobody to model it since we're all busy. It will still sit there, just like ghostly and sky high and all the other ones.

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Agent000
Posted on 05-17-13 05:51 PM Link | #22734
I'd be willing to model stuff actually approved

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gc
Posted on 05-18-13 08:34 AM Link | #22775
Well, firstly we'd need a new list of designs, since MC's one is outdated and he's gone. :(
That'd make things easier, and a lot less messier.


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Geometric Expulsion
Posted on 05-18-13 10:31 AM Link | #22777
I've got a draft of who's working on what and which galaxies are available... but I'm not sure if it's accurate.
Furthermore, it will be difficult to maintain so I'm not sure whether it's worth it or not.

shibboleet
Posted on 05-18-13 02:47 PM Link | #22792
Posted by Agent000
Until a design is approved level creation cannot happen.

Now you know why I turned to my actual life for a while. :P
I have nothing to do, nothing is getting done. I'm just bored. Plus, RHP's 2nd planet is broken, and it cannot be fixed. It has to be modeled again.

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Agent000
Posted on 05-18-13 05:25 PM (rev. 3 of 05-18-13 05:27 PM) Link | #22797
This is going to sound restrictive but hear me out:

On general level design threads, all posts not providing ideas or constructive feedback to ideas will be deleted. Then, once the thread reaches a certain length (say, 10 pages) the thread will be locked and someone must make a design for the galaxy using using ideas in the thread as well as the designer's own ideas. Once a design for all of the galaxy's stars is done, it is posted as a separate thread. All replies not providing constructive feedback to the design will be deleted. The designer uses the feedback to modify their design in their original post. The thread has until 5 pages, then it will be locked and the design submitted for approval by an active administrator. If the design is not approved, it gets 5 more thread pages for suggestions and modification, then it will be locked again for approval. And the cycle continues until the galaxy has an approved design.

I think this can be an effective, organized procedure of approval as long as enforcement of thread locking and deletion of unnecessary posts is maintained.

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MK7tester
Posted on 05-18-13 05:57 PM Link | #22798
Posted by Luigi
Posted by Agent000
Until a design is approved level creation cannot happen.

Now you know why I turned to my actual life for a while. :P
I have nothing to do, nothing is getting done. I'm just bored. Plus, RHP's 2nd planet is broken, and it cannot be fixed. It has to be modeled again.
I totally agree with this, I feel so useless because there's nothing I can do. All there is right now is designs, designs, designs.

Agent000
Posted on 05-18-13 11:37 PM Link | #22801
:| That's nice but what do you think of the system I suggested?

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SquidEmpress
Posted on 05-19-13 12:13 AM (rev. 2 of 05-19-13 12:16 AM) Link | #22804
To be honest, I personally think it is more complex than even restricted. It is pretty "this and then this and then this..." It sounds deadline-like to me and deadlines are usually a bad idea.


Edit: I also think it sounds too repetitive :/.

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Agent000
Posted on 05-19-13 12:23 AM Link | #22805
At this point we need to set deadlines to make sure stuff is happening reasonably quickly.

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SquidEmpress
Posted on 05-19-13 12:39 AM Link | #22806
Agent, here is my variation of your system:

•The SMG2.5 forums as a whole have two to three local moderators, both of whom are active members who are currently not a Kuribi64 staff member right now.

•Any useless/off-topic/flame posts will deleted (it virtually already is like that :P).

•Anyone can reserve a galaxy. Both the ideas thread and a user's design thread will be open at the same time. This is so that feedback can be provided both ways.

•Eventually, a Kuribo64 staff member, presumably one the SMG2.5 forums' two or three local moderators, will approve the design and lock any threads relating to level design.

•There will be a modeling thread with the same methods stated above.

•Finally, there will be a creation thread with the same methods as the ideas, design, and modeling threads.

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So there you go. That is my variation of Agent's proposal. Please provide feedback. On a related note, nstead of deadlines, there should be goals like let us say, two weeks for a level creation, for example.


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NWPlayer123
Posted on 05-19-13 01:18 AM Link | #22809
Except none of this is gonna work because we've tried to do this before and failed.

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Agent000
Posted on 05-19-13 01:24 AM Link | #22812
That's because no admins are active enough to enforce it. We need mods who actually, you know, moderate :P

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SquidEmpress
Posted on 05-19-13 01:27 AM Link | #22813
That is exactly why I proposed having two to three local moderators for the SMG2.5 forums, so that the system can actually work.

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gc
Posted on 05-19-13 02:53 AM Link | #22814
Geometric, if you've got an up to date draft, post it. Editing works, y'know.
Can local mods can delete/edit posts in all threads, or just a few specific threads?
Maybe making any list able to be modded by the active members, if possible?

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Slow and steady gets you trampled by the other guys.

NWPlayer123
Posted on 05-19-13 02:54 AM (rev. 3 of 05-19-13 02:55 AM) Link | #22815
local mods are different than gmods because they're assigned to a board, and their power only works there.
I do think that if implemented, a thread-based mod system could work well too.

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