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Dirbaio |
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Retired staff Level: 30 Posts: 139/184 EXP: 163828 Next: 2041 Since: 07-07-12 From: Spain Last post: 3745 days ago Last view: 2142 days ago |
06:22 < MrRean> We aren't here just to be important have an awesome job and brag about it.
So the thing is:
06:22 < MrRean> What are we here for? A hack. 06:22 < MrRean> A FUN hack. 06:23 < MrRean> Jobs don't matter. 06:23 < MrRean> As long as you help out, and contribute to the project, you are being a helpful member. The "job" thing is creating drama. People fight to get jobs because they believe it will "make them important" in the project. You know what? This is STUPID. It's creating useless drama. It isn't helping the project. It's pissing people off. People have to realize that the best thing they can do for the project is collaborate. Forget about the jobs. Do stuff that needs to be done. Do it awesome. Then the project WILL work. People are important because of what they DO, not because of the JOB they have. The thing I'm proposing is that jobs should go away. People who really care about the project will contribute in everything they can, and the project will go forward. All successful community hacks I've seen have been organized this way. I can tell you that not having jobs is GOOD because I've SEEN IT. (I'm not making a poll because everyone who has a job would vote that jobs should stay and everyone who doesn't would vote jobs should go away.) Please discuss. ____________________ Cool Stuff: Dirbaio.net (my boring site) - The NSMB Hacking Domain - Kuribo64 - ABXD DevBoard |
shibboleet |
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Fire Mario DROP TABLE users; Level: 123 Posts: 119/4661 EXP: 20886863 Next: 344403 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 1347 days ago Last view: 360 days ago |
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MoreCowbell |
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Member Mawile or riot Level: 73 Posts: 13/1420 EXP: 3456208 Next: 29660 Since: 11-20-12 Last post: 1659 days ago Last view: 1659 days ago |
I really disagree with losing jobs. I think it motivates people to work. And with all due respect to MrRean, let's remember that a lot of this drama involved him. I just don't want to see jobs go like this because of a few people. |
MK7tester |
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Magikoopa I'm back Level: 104 Posts: 140/3145 EXP: 11576491 Next: 285635 Since: 07-07-12 From: Dolphic Island Last post: 2596 days ago Last view: 2594 days ago |
I agree with this, actually, you don't need a title to prove that you have skill, you need actual proof. I think the list of members and jobs thread should be deleted aswell if jobs do, because then people will fight to gain their name on that thread. |
shibboleet |
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Fire Mario DROP TABLE users; Level: 123 Posts: 120/4661 EXP: 20886863 Next: 344403 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 1347 days ago Last view: 360 days ago |
Exactly, plus It's causing drama and arguments on why they don't have it, and etc
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MoreCowbell |
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Member Mawile or riot Level: 73 Posts: 14/1420 EXP: 3456208 Next: 29660 Since: 11-20-12 Last post: 1659 days ago Last view: 1659 days ago |
Right, but having jobs peacefully keeps us together. The problem isn't jobs, it's the people causing drama. We need to learn how to have some healthy competition on this project, which will help us work together. |
shibboleet |
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Fire Mario DROP TABLE users; Level: 123 Posts: 121/4661 EXP: 20886863 Next: 344403 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 1347 days ago Last view: 360 days ago |
Posted by MoreCowbell False. People just earn jobs just to be in the credits, and they just don't do anything else after they earn the job. ____________________ a |
MK7tester |
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Magikoopa I'm back Level: 104 Posts: 141/3145 EXP: 11576491 Next: 285635 Since: 07-07-12 From: Dolphic Island Last post: 2596 days ago Last view: 2594 days ago |
But wait,
I still see an issue, with nothing to work for, everyone will start wanting to be a Moderator to gain some sort of importance...and that doesn't work well. |
shibboleet |
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Fire Mario DROP TABLE users; Level: 123 Posts: 122/4661 EXP: 20886863 Next: 344403 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 1347 days ago Last view: 360 days ago |
Posted by Silver Not happening. The moderators that we have are the moderators that will stay. Nobody else. ____________________ a |
MoreCowbell |
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Member Mawile or riot Level: 73 Posts: 15/1420 EXP: 3456208 Next: 29660 Since: 11-20-12 Last post: 1659 days ago Last view: 1659 days ago |
That's not true MrRean. I want a job to effectively help this project. I think there are others who do to. |
Dirbaio |
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Retired staff Level: 30 Posts: 140/184 EXP: 163828 Next: 2041 Since: 07-07-12 From: Spain Last post: 3745 days ago Last view: 2142 days ago |
Posted by MoreCowbell Competition is always bad if people don't know how to handle it. I've seen quite a few NSMB hacking contests blow up because of this in NSMBHD. Jobs are a form of competition too. Posted by MoreCowbellIf you want to help the project then DO IT. No need for jobs. You will be judged by what you have contributed, that's all. ____________________ Cool Stuff: Dirbaio.net (my boring site) - The NSMB Hacking Domain - Kuribo64 - ABXD DevBoard |
MoreCowbell |
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Member Mawile or riot Level: 73 Posts: 16/1420 EXP: 3456208 Next: 29660 Since: 11-20-12 Last post: 1659 days ago Last view: 1659 days ago |
I am doing it. MrRean said himself he only cares about getting his job done, and while this is good, I don't think he should choose how we get to do our jobs. |
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Dirbaio |
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Retired staff Level: 30 Posts: 142/184 EXP: 163828 Next: 2041 Since: 07-07-12 From: Spain Last post: 3745 days ago Last view: 2142 days ago |
It's not his decision. I started to talk about it on IRC. ____________________ Cool Stuff: Dirbaio.net (my boring site) - The NSMB Hacking Domain - Kuribo64 - ABXD DevBoard |
shibboleet |
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Fire Mario DROP TABLE users; Level: 123 Posts: 124/4661 EXP: 20886863 Next: 344403 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 1347 days ago Last view: 360 days ago |
Better? It's in a spoiler, and this says something. It says everything in my argument ____________________ a |
MoreCowbell |
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Member Mawile or riot Level: 73 Posts: 17/1420 EXP: 3456208 Next: 29660 Since: 11-20-12 Last post: 1659 days ago Last view: 1659 days ago |
Before I leave, let me say one thing. I want this project finished. Right now, people don't trust each other here. We need to restore that trust and focus on our jobs. Our jobs give us a place in the project. Our jobs let people know who we are and what we do. Admit it, we all like seeing our name in that list. And maybe its true that creating healthy competition is hard, but we need to do it no matter what. If you care about Super Mario Galaxy 2.5, then stay here and make it work.
-MoreCowbell |
Dirbaio |
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Retired staff Level: 30 Posts: 143/184 EXP: 163828 Next: 2041 Since: 07-07-12 From: Spain Last post: 3745 days ago Last view: 2142 days ago |
Everyone will be credited for what they have done in the end. If someone has done more than one thing (for example levels and music) he'll be credited in both, obviously.
Credits are not a problem The competition thing is terribly wrong. But you're very right, you guys need to get everything back together. ____________________ Cool Stuff: Dirbaio.net (my boring site) - The NSMB Hacking Domain - Kuribo64 - ABXD DevBoard |
Arisotura |
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Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 163 Posts: 437/9019 EXP: 56249995 Next: 237649 Since: 07-03-12 From: in a box Last post: 12 days ago Last view: 1 day ago |
I say jobs to hell. People should actually care about the project and contribute all they can, rather than fighting over titles like elementary school kids fighting over candy.
Also, no more job application threads please. The existing ones will be trashed, and the job application forum will be removed. ____________________ NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is zafkflzdasd |
NWPlayer123 |
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Member Imma Snuggle You Level: 110 Posts: 73/3604 EXP: 14201462 Next: 207424 Since: 07-07-12 From: Colorado Last post: 3100 days ago Last view: 1257 days ago |
I closed them for the time being ____________________ "I hate playing musical chats" ~ Quote of the month |
MK7tester |
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Magikoopa I'm back Level: 104 Posts: 146/3145 EXP: 11576491 Next: 285635 Since: 07-07-12 From: Dolphic Island Last post: 2596 days ago Last view: 2594 days ago |
Don't you think a poll would have been convienient in this situation? ._. |
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