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Which Musical Composition should be the music for Edge of the Universe? (Final Bowser Level)
mariogalaxythree's piece
66.7% (8)
Blaz's piece (Neutron Star Reactor)
41.7% (5)
Multiple voting is not allowed. Changing your vote is allowed. 12 users have voted so far.

MK7tester
Posted on 01-30-13 04:15 AM Link | #11384
Haha, nice saying Glem3, but all in all, I really hope NSR gets used in this galaxy. >.<

MoreCowbell
Posted on 01-30-13 04:16 AM Link | #11385
I think NSR for final frontier.
Final frontier is more your classic bowser level
Like mg3's piece, EotU is unusual and unexpected

MK7tester
Posted on 01-30-13 04:17 AM (rev. 2 of 01-30-13 04:17 AM) Link | #11387
Unusual and Unexpected is the exact opposite of the epic showdown in the middle or "edge" of the universe.

Glem3
Posted on 01-30-13 04:17 AM (rev. 2 of 01-30-13 04:18 AM) Link | #11388
Yes, it's unusual and unexpected in that it doesn't fit the pacing of a galaxy level and it's not very memorable for a final level theme.

I told MG3 when he asked if he could make this poll "I mean, I guess you can go for it but I'm not guaranteeing that I'll go with your piece just because others want to. Unless it's a really dramatic difference, maybe.". This isn't deciding whether or not it will be in the final level, like we've said before, this project isn't a democracy. I'm willing to let MG3 try to rework his piece and make it better than Blaz's. However, as it stands right now, it is most definitely not better than Blaz's.

MK7tester
Posted on 01-30-13 04:19 AM Link | #11389
Alright MG3, guess you'll have to take another chance.

Glem3
Posted on 01-30-13 04:20 AM (rev. 2 of 01-30-13 04:21 AM) Link | #11390
I also think another element here (and correct me if I'm wrong) is Blaz isn't actually active here so people don't really feel bad voting against his piece. But now I'm just ranting.

mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-30-13 04:22 AM (rev. 2 of 01-30-13 04:25 AM) Link | #11391
Don't get the idea that I don't like NSR. I do, a lot. If Galaxy Reactor didn't exist, NSR would be better. NSR would work for EotU, but I just feel the very final theme can't be a copy of any sense. Take SMG2's final level theme. On it's own, NSR may be better than mine, but my track has more unique depth and atmosphere that would catch players off guard - in a good way. Keep in mind predictability, a good plot twist is better than the same formula. With my piece the player would think "Wow, that is quite different but interesting". With NSR "Its really good, but didnt I hear that before?"

EDIT: Its still too early in the poll. In a week or so, most (hopefully all) the main staff will have voted. Keep this in mind guys "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few".

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MK7tester
Posted on 01-30-13 04:23 AM Link | #11392
We can't judge it by who did it, we have to judge it on the quality.

Like Glem, I find MG3's piece a skip-a-bye, it's good, but it doesn't have that "Final Epic Road to Bowser" pitch. IDK.

MoreCowbell
Posted on 01-30-13 04:28 AM Link | #11393
Honestly, I was the one who "discovered" blaz, and when I heard NSR, I said where have I heard this?
If mg3 is right and EotU is a surprise, then I don't see why his piece shouldn't have a chance

mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-30-13 04:29 AM Link | #11394
My point is, most gamers would listen to the music more if it was not what we've heard before. That is why Nintendo did something very different for SMG2's final level.

MK7tester
Posted on 01-30-13 04:30 AM Link | #11395
You guys, arguing with Glem3 won't do anything, i've tried it before and it won't work unless you out do his estimations. Also, he said it WON'T be a democracy, so the poll has no value at the moment.

mariogalaxythree
Posted on 01-30-13 04:34 AM Link | #11398
I'm just thinking about the general public here. It is our duty to entertain the gamers best as we can. And as many as we can. So doing something the people want instead of what I want (I could have made the song very different.)

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shibboleet
Posted on 01-30-13 04:36 AM Link | #11400
wait a minute, wait a minute.
Reany boi chipping in here.

Glem3 JUST said that MG3's piece isn't good enough. Period. That's the answer, am I not correct?

So, why don't we just stop voting for a piece, that's not even close to approved yet.
Just wait, and let MG3 edit his, (Or just completely remake it) and see what happens then.

Simple.

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Glem3
Posted on 01-30-13 04:51 AM Link | #11412
No doubt, as it is right now, I would not put MG3's music in the final level. I find it incredibly silly, this "it's more important to be different than to be good". It hasn't just been on this board, either, it's been on nearly every world, something is good and then people say "but that would be too similar to _____". Stop it, the title of this hack is LITERALLY one of the least original things it could possibly be! This isn't Super Mario Galaxy 3. We're making a game in line with what Nintendo was setting up with SMG1 and 2. Sure, if MarioGalaxyThree's music was an amazing new theme that sounded great and like the final level of the game, same as Blaz's, and it was more original, right away I'd agree. But it's not.

MG3's theme, although it's good as a music track, doesn't fit with what the final level should sound like, nor does it fit what a typical SMG galaxy should sound like as well as Blaz's, nor does it fit with Mario's pacing, visuals, anything. I don't care how you want to try to stick it in, it doesn't fit, at least not here. A lot of you (me included) get a bit of a rush off of "This is so new!", but you can't let that get in the way of a better quality track.

I'm fine with Blaz's piece being used for final frontier IF we get another track that's equally good but original. MG3, yours doesn't cut it for me, the instrumentation is off, the pacing is off, and it's not catchy enough. It's a GOOD track and it's well composed, but it doesn't FIT.

If people made two designs for a galaxy, one being an awesome linear platforming level and the other a very well designed fetch quest, I wouldn't say "Well, that's NEW, we better slap it on in!". The platforming level would fit. It's the same case here, Blaz's music fits.


Agent000
Posted on 01-30-13 02:26 PM Link | #11485
Gonna have to disagree on just about everything there. I don't like it just because its different, I like it because with some cleaning up it could be a very intense track for the conclusion of the game. If mg3 agrees i'll personally revamp it.

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Glem3
Posted on 01-30-13 04:22 PM Link | #11487
I don't know if either of you have shown instruments fitting for a final level thus far.

Geometric Expulsion
Posted on 01-30-13 04:23 PM (rev. 2 of 01-30-13 04:23 PM) Link | #11488
I completely agree with MrRean and glem. Mg3's definitely doesn't fit the last level as it stands right now, but nothing's been finalized yet, so there's no reason why he can't make it better.

EDIT: Ninja'd. Ah well, it was bound to happen eventually.

Agent000
Posted on 01-30-13 04:30 PM Link | #11493
Posted by Glem3
I don't know if either of you have shown instruments fitting for a final level thus far.


I use the exact same soundset as Blaz.

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Glem3
Posted on 01-30-13 04:33 PM Link | #11495
Well I haven't heard your music in a while I guess. But the most recent stuff I've seen from you definitely didn't match Blaz's in terms of quality.

On another note, I'm taking a new stance:

Neither is fit for the final level. The final level is dark and twisted. It needs to be better than both, as well as have a bit of a more dark and twisted feel.

Agent000
Posted on 01-30-13 04:36 PM (rev. 2 of 01-30-13 04:42 PM) Link | #11496
Posted by Glem3
Well I haven't heard your music in a while I guess. But the most recent stuff I've seen from you definitely didn't match Blaz's in terms of quality.

On another note, I'm taking a new stance:

Neither is fit for the final level. The final level is dark and twisted. It needs to be better than both, as well as have a bit of a more dark and twisted feel.


Fair enough I suppose...I'm still going to try to get mg3's eotu and revamp it.

(Oh, and for future reference, I wouldn't recommend saying a composer's music lacks quality :P)

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