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![[image]](http://www.mariowiki.com/images/a/af/Mario_Mugshot_%2798.gif) Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 58 
Posts: 1227/1461 EXP: 1551222 Next: 26324 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 9 days ago |
Voting third party might as well be wasting your vote.
it's p clear to me that one side (Republicans) is worse than the other (Democrats) and both have a decent chance of winning so that's why I and many people who share my views vote Democrat, mainly because the Democrats at least pretend to care about healthcare and the environment. |
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Baby Luigi Level: 43 
Posts: 516/719 EXP: 535860 Next: 29186 Since: 03-13-16 From: Lost in Time Last post: 2 days ago Last view: 12 hours ago |
I mean, at least the Democrats put Bernie Sanders on the spotlight for a brief moment, garnered a huge amount of support, and then swept the rug underneath him. I think having him as a candidate was one of the best things they'd done, and that there was hope, until they wanted to support freaking Clinton.
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Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 58 
Posts: 1234/1461 EXP: 1551222 Next: 26324 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 9 days ago |
Democrats are more conservative than the Republicans are.
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 Ninji ガラクティク・パイラト Level: 25 
Posts: 135/240 EXP: 79464 Next: 10156 Since: 01-23-17 From: Paris, France Last post: 3 days ago Last view: 1 day ago |
IMO the two-parties thing is almost a dictatorship thing. I am mostly centrist, and in France En Marche was created in 2016 and their candidate, Macron, won the election. And there are lots of parties. That's similar in most of Europe too.
Posted by LeftyGreenMario Death penalty Global warming Gun control Abortion Healthcare Do I need to say more |
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Baby Luigi Level: 43
Posts: 519/719 EXP: 535860 Next: 29186 Since: 03-13-16 From: Lost in Time Last post: 2 days ago Last view: 12 hours ago |
If you mean by saying the Republicans are so far right that they're less conservative than the Democrats then yeah.
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Posts: 344/822 EXP: 954041 Next: 59897 Since: 10-29-13 From: Backyard Last post: 3 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
What kind of party is a resistance-type party in US? That stands up against Capitalism the most? |
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Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 58 
Posts: 1236/1461 EXP: 1551222 Next: 26324 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 9 days ago |
Well, I think the electoral college enables that kind of two-party system too. It's a first-past-the-post winner-takes-all rather than proportional, so we have things like gerrymandering or focusing on a few states that have more voting power than the more-populous states.
It sucks that some farmer in Wyoming, one of her votes equals three California votes. Posted by GalacticPirate I mean semantically and on the spectrum, though, they are more conservative, if you consider conservative just a component on the spectrum. Republicans are more reactionary by trying to undo everything but Democrats like the preserve the status quo (by choosing Hillary, a very safe status quo figure to me IMO) or make only gradual changes, which is closer to conservatism, which is playing it safe to "conserve". Posted by Swingball http://www.cpusa.org/ |
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Baby Luigi Level: 43
Posts: 520/719 EXP: 535860 Next: 29186 Since: 03-13-16 From: Lost in Time Last post: 2 days ago Last view: 12 hours ago |
Communism is far too extreme for my tastes lol
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Posts: 347/822 EXP: 954041 Next: 59897 Since: 10-29-13 From: Backyard Last post: 3 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
Posted by LeftyGreenMarioIs that the only one or is there more? |
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Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 58 
Posts: 1252/1461 EXP: 1551222 Next: 26324 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 9 days ago |
Tons of more if you want them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States |
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Posts: 348/822 EXP: 954041 Next: 59897 Since: 10-29-13 From: Backyard Last post: 3 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
Or should we lean medium-left instead? |
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Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 58 
Posts: 1254/1461 EXP: 1551222 Next: 26324 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 9 days ago |
Medium left, even medium-right they're okay positions to take. Just don't go too far down the hole in either side, it never ends well. I prefer medium-
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Posts: 349/822 EXP: 954041 Next: 59897 Since: 10-29-13 From: Backyard Last post: 3 days ago Last view: 2 days ago |
What parties are medium-left?
Should we continue this in PM? |
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Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 58
Posts: 1259/1461 EXP: 1551222 Next: 26324 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 9 days ago |
Not sure but I don't think it really matters and I'm too hungry and distracted to continue in PM right now. Maybe later.
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Posted by Swingball |
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Don't like politics? Too bad, it's-a Mario time. Level: 58
Posts: 1264/1461 EXP: 1551222 Next: 26324 Since: 03-14-16 From: Stabbing Wario Last post: 9 days ago Last view: 9 days ago |
Bruh maybe the Green Party or some progressive party in Vermont or maybe one of the six socialist parties.
But avoid Independent American Party, it's a shitty party despite its name. I don't know, why don't you have a look? You're more interested than I am. |
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Posted by Baby Luigi Election rigging and political assassinations (*cough* JFK *cough*) certainly aren't limited to weaker, emerging democracies in foreign countries. Both of them happen in the US fairly routinely. |
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Baby Luigi Level: 43
Posts: 541/719 EXP: 535860 Next: 29186 Since: 03-13-16 From: Lost in Time Last post: 2 days ago Last view: 12 hours ago |
Not to mention, Trump being chums with Putin and Russia possibly rigging elections for Trump.
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Member If you are reading this, you have eyes. Level: 17 Posts: 9/137 EXP: 23640 Next: 1103 Since: 09-19-17 From: Nokia Baywatch, Aisle Del Phenyl Last post: 27 days ago Last view: 95 days ago |
Heck, there was a military coup attempt in France known as the Algiers Putsch of 1961 in order to prevent the independence of Algeria.
As for me, I personally don't identify anywhere on the political spectrum although Political Compass places me as a left or socialist libertarian. All I will say I have a very unfavorable view of religion, most especially political religions like Juche, National Bolshevism, and Nazism. As you can probably infer, I despise theocracies like Iran, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia. I have no problem with religious people as long they are peaceful and don't have a shove-it-down-your-throat. "Forcibly convert the Middle East to Christianity!"/"Behead those who insult Islam!" If I had to choose a party it would be the Green Party although I think Bernie Sanders is more fit for US President than Jill Stein. As for communism, in theory it could work but it keeps on failing and devolving into either totalitarianism (*ahem* Holodomor and Cambodian Genocide *ahem*) or state capitalism (China, Vietnam, etc.) The closest something similar to communism came to working was Yugoslavia but after Tito's death ultranationalism grew more and more until it culminated into the Yugoslav Wars of the 1990's. One of the reasons why I no longer identify as anywhere on the political spectrum is because I was constantly called a "fascist", "nazi", "capitalist", "Trump supporter", and even slurs for acknowledging atrocities like the Holodomor and Cambodian Genocide. Posted by Baby Luigi As much as I dislike Putin and Trump, I see this whole Russiagate thing as the Democrats' equivalent of the Republicans' Iraqi WMDs. If Trump is gonna be impeached it should be for things there is actual evidence for like his stupid Muslim ban. |
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Baby Luigi Level: 43
Posts: 543/719 EXP: 535860 Next: 29186 Since: 03-13-16 From: Lost in Time Last post: 2 days ago Last view: 12 hours ago |
Don't get me wrong, I think the whole RUSSIA RIGGED ELECTIONS is minor compared to all of the shit Trump has pulled off, but it just shows you how the system can easily exploited especially by other asshats.
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