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MK7tester
Posted on 11-10-16 01:25 AM (rev. 2 of 11-10-16 01:26 AM) Link | #79615
Not good. We don't need a mindless idiot in office. I'm ashamed to be living in America.

Hillary wasn't great either, but Trump could be devastating to the U.S.

SGC
Posted on 11-10-16 04:08 AM Link | #79616
I think Hillary could have been more devastating to the US, to be honest.
I don't support Hillary for many reasons.

I mean all the scandals, the seemingly obvious cheating, and wanting to drone some media outlets, drove me away from Clinton.(edited)
Not to mention I think she's a pretty big hypocrite, and I found some of her campaign ads discriminating.
I don't agree with some, if not most of her views, either.

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Isaac
Posted on 11-10-16 06:56 AM Link | #79617
People are starting to protest now. I wonder if another old video of him will come up and change everyone's minds.
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Arisotura
Posted on 11-10-16 07:12 AM Link | #79618
Considering the current mess, this has potential for turning into a civil war. Fun times.

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Marionumber1
Posted on 11-10-16 09:42 AM Link | #79619
Posted by MK7tester
Not good. We don't need a mindless idiot in office. I'm ashamed to be living in America.

Hillary wasn't great either, but Trump could be devastating to the U.S.


Hillary would have been more devastating to the US and the rest of the world. Both of them were likely to pursue a corporate agenda, but as the Democrat, Hillary would face virtually no progressive opposition. And on several key issues - the TPP, money in politics, foreign interventionism - Hillary is more right-wing than Trump. We were actually at grave risk of war with Russia, Iran, and China if Hillary got a chance to enact her foreign policy.

Isaac
Posted on 11-10-16 05:27 PM Link | #79625
Guys.. what about Gary Johnson?
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Marionumber1
Posted on 11-10-16 06:07 PM Link | #79626
Posted by GamesWithIsaac
Guys.. what about Gary Johnson?


He'd pursue a right-wing corporate agenda just like Hillary and Trump. Jill Stein was the only good choice in this election.

MK7tester
Posted on 11-10-16 06:20 PM Link | #79627
Posted by Marionumber1
Hillary would have been more devastating to the US and the rest of the world. Both of them were likely to pursue a corporate agenda, but as the Democrat, Hillary would face virtually no progressive opposition. And on several key issues - the TPP, money in politics, foreign interventionism - Hillary is more right-wing than Trump. We were actually at grave risk of war with Russia, Iran, and China if Hillary got a chance to enact her foreign policy.


I know Hillary would've been a risky option too, especially with Russia. I'm just really disappointed that basically a living meme who has no idea what he is doing is now the face of our country.

The DNC fucked up so bad. I hope it's in extreme debt now that Hillary lost. Bernie would've been a superhero.

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 11-10-16 07:39 PM Link | #79629
Posted by GamesWithIsaac
Guys.. what about Gary Johnson?

He sucks.

Anyhow, more the reason to take it to the streets. I told my sister that I want to burn / rip up the American flag, get a Trump pinata, burn a Trump effigy, but I don't know how people at LA are doing. Lacking social networking, I don't know how to join protests.

Toms
Posted on 11-10-16 07:44 PM Link | #79630
Isn't burning the American flag illegal though?

Marionumber1
Posted on 11-10-16 08:03 PM Link | #79631
Posted by TMolter
Isn't burning the American flag illegal though?


No, such a law would be horrifically unconstitutional, and the Supreme Court has affirmed that view.

Isaac
Posted on 11-10-16 08:09 PM Link | #79632
You can burn a flag with your putting it to rest.
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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 11-10-16 08:24 PM Link | #79633
I can also rip it to pieces or try pissing on it.

But I think I'm going to carry a sign or chant with those protestors instead. I don't want to damage or vandalize, as it's giving the opposite message that we should love instead of hate.

"Not Trump"
"Love trumps hate"
"Minority power"

Trump is not going to help these desperate working middle-clasee blue collars who voted for him. He's a freaking billionaire. But they don't know any better.

PaperplateismGuy
Posted on 11-10-16 11:16 PM Link | #79635
Posted by LeftyGreenMario
He sucks.

Anyhow, more the reason to take it to the streets. I told my sister that I want to burn / rip up the American flag, get a Trump pinata, burn a Trump effigy, but I don't know how people at LA are doing. Lacking social networking, I don't know how to join protests.


That's very disrespectful ( I don't care about the piñata or what you think of Trump) to do that to the flag. I remember in scouts we weren't allowed to let the flag touch the ground, so burning it, ripping it up, and pissing on it is just discourteous to the people who fought and died to keep the US free and free from war on US soil. I know you're unhappy with the result, but such action is unnecessary.

Protesting wont do anything to the current situation, it would be a waste of energy. Don't worry, you can stick it out for four years, like I've done for the last eight. Ít's not that hard. I don't think he'll get another term. ;)

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Tahcryon
Posted on 11-11-16 01:34 AM Link | #79636
oh no a leader who I dislike was democratically elected, better piss on my nation's flag like a fucking 5 year old to show how bullshit this all is

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Arisotura
Posted on 11-11-16 06:38 AM Link | #79637
As much as doing shit to the flag won't do much, I guess we can agree that a) Trump isn't going to be a good president, b) Clinton wouldn't have been either, and c) the system is broken and needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Or not. But you get the point. It's more than "oh noes I don't like the president".

Posted by PaperplateismGuy
Protesting wont do anything to the current situation, it would be a waste of energy. Don't worry, you can stick it out for four years, like I've done for the last eight. Ít's not that hard. I don't think he'll get another term. ;)

Protesting alone may not be enough to get things done. More action is needed.

But resigning and accepting the situation? It means four more years of indignation in front of your TV. It means accepting the destructive expansion of capitalism. It means accepting global warming and the destructive proportions it will reach. And other things too, global warming is only the tip of the iceberg.

Maybe if you resign and work hard enough, you will live well within the current system. But for your children and grandchildren, things will only get worse.

Or maybe you want a quality future for them. In this case, you don't fucking resign. You fight with those who also want a quality future.

Death to capitalism.

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Marionumber1
Posted on 11-11-16 07:35 AM Link | #79638
Posted by PaperplateismGuy
the people who fought and died to keep the US free and free from war on US soil.


I get what you're saying, but it needs to be pointed out that almost all of our military action has nothing to do with defending our freedom. Especially in recent years, it's all about enriching the military-industrial complex and expanding US empire for the benefit of banks and corporations. It's for an unjust cause, been a humanitarian disaster, and created foreign terrorism that makes us less safe.

Arisotura
Posted on 11-11-16 07:38 AM Link | #79639
Exactly. You need to get over basic patriotism and look at the reality. Is the current world what our glorious ancestors fought for? I doubt it.

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Isaac
Posted on 11-11-16 08:05 AM Link | #79640
Posted by PaperplateismGuy
That's very disrespectful ( I don't care about the piñata or what you think of Trump) to do that to the flag. I remember in scouts we weren't allowed to let the flag touch the ground, so burning it, ripping it up, and pissing on


If it touches the ground then you cut it up into small pieces for at least 1 person to hold then there is a moment of silence after the moment of silence you throw the small pieces in to the fire. I've gone through Boy-scouts and Cub-scouts.
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Hiccup
Posted on 11-11-16 09:10 AM Link | #79641
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