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Arisotura
Posted on 07-27-16 08:41 PM Link | #74905
I mentioned related things in the stupid ads thread, but this deserves its own thread.


You know when I talked about smart swimsuits? It was pretty much only an idea.

Now it's becoming real.

As a modern human, you are too dumb to know when you're getting sunburnt. You need your smartphone to tell you when the company thinks that the UV level is bad for you.

(accompanied by your typical instagram pic of a skeleton girl at the beach. much swag, such cool, so trendy, wow)


Take a look at Internet of Shit on Twitter.


For example: http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/7/12/12159766/internet-of-things-iot-internet-of-shit-twitter


I already posted about planned obsolescence. I already posted about smart garbage. I already posted about DMCA abuse. But if you combine it all, it gets really terrible.


The 'Internet of Things' trend is going to be an ecological disaster. None of the actors are interested into providing reliable products or services (if that's what you want, you aren't using their gadgets anyway). It's all about extracting cash from morons who think they're cool with their smart lightbulbs.

Now combine this with, say, planned obsolescence. If you're into that, connecting your products to the internet is a godsend. You no longer have to carefully adapt the quality of your parts and predict when the key parts will break. All you have to do is make an update that renders products inoperable and say they're "no longer compatible".

The best part is that you're legally backed by DMCA! If anyone tries to tell people how to get around your planned obsolescence practices, you can sue them into oblivion, because their smart object runs your copyrighted code.

This will basically mean that those companies will get to waste the Earth's resources even faster by producing tons of smart garbage with very limited lifetime.


They say the Earth is polluted? Enjoy it while it lasts. The Wall-E world is coming. Your grandsons may never know what living on a planet is like.


You can stand against the trend, though. Don't fall for their marketing bullshit, don't buy their smart garbage.

If you're not afraid of getting really dirty, taking down the servers that power smart objects should be fun too -- then grab some popcorn and watch the techmorons starve and freeze to death as their smart thermostats and cookers refuse to work. Hey, it's a form of natural selection, dumber humans don't survive.

Not that I'm going to encourage illegal activity. But eventually that will happen, and it'll be a fun ride.


Also, if any of the people you know happen to be techmorons, try to convince them. Won't be easy, they'll call you a technophobic dinosaur.

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MusiMasta
Posted on 07-27-16 09:11 PM Link | #74919
Yep...pretty much knew this was gonna happen when I read an article in TIME magazine saying what will be expected in 2025-2030, a smart swimsuit that changes colors, detects UV rays, smart clothing that can change colors too and is made of a special fabric that feels good in any condition like showering and even sleeping, so you can keep it on forever, and of course, much more dumb smart stuff.

But people aren't dumb, hopefully. Some people will take a stand against all of this and as people stand on this side, hopefully more people will notice that and then stop buying and supporting smart stuff. However, vice versa, if this becomes a trend, more and more people will get into it, like the classic, "Oh my friend has it so I'll get it too" and then the world is doomed.

Too bad we live in the 20th century and have to face these rising issues, like trashing our world and of course, the climate. We were also gifted with technology and all of that, but we need to use the gift in the right way to solve the problem. Right now we are just going in the wrong way as a whole.

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RanAS
Posted on 07-27-16 10:48 PM Link | #74953
I've heard some professionals say that the next generation is going to be conserned with ecology and conserving the Earth way more than most technological development. Now, I'm not sure if they are right, but for crying out loud I hope they are.

Technology is nowhere near as developed as marketers want it to be, and accumulating lies is like accumulating Tetris pieces, you keep adding more pieces but you forget to clear the lines. If you don't find a solution, there will be trouble.

Now I know Game Theory isn't very well liked, but he actually previewed this occurrence a little while ago with his videos covering Watchdogs, so at least some well-known people know about this problem and are willing to do something about it.
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Baby Luigi
Posted on 07-29-16 01:43 AM Link | #75073
Smart objects are stupid. Remember when your computer or phone refuses to boot up one day? Now imagine that with nearly every damn object that doesn't need to be electronicfied.

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 07-29-16 03:42 AM Link | #75094
Posted by RanAS
I've heard some professionals say that the next generation is going to be conserned with ecology and conserving the Earth way more than most technological development. Now, I'm not sure if they are right, but for crying out loud I hope they are.

I really hope so, but our current generation still has too many people denying global warming exists and most people not ranking it high on policy concerns (and I believe global warming is THE biggest threat we need to deal with; it is far more of a threat than terrorists) and our media does not do a good job at covering it (while they focus on useless crap like whatever is the latest bullcrap Trump has said). There's also funding for science and conservation, which is just a small pool and sees budgets getting cut even more.

It's sad that most of this is just done in the way of money and short term satisfaction. What we're doing right now is already ridiculous, such as computers built in a way that's intentionally wasteful (like having different-sized components so if one is defunct, you might need to buy an entire computer), how people can own a lot of shoes, having a lot of television screens and computer monitors and phones, how we take our water usage for granted, how we take the danger of plastic and trash for granted... we're so wasteful.

Lunarius
Posted on 07-29-16 09:47 PM (rev. 2 of 07-29-16 09:48 PM) Link | #75211
We will one day destroy ourselves before the Earth does. :P




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Arisotura
Posted on 07-29-16 10:01 PM (rev. 2 of 07-29-16 10:04 PM) Link | #75215
>global warming


they're putting it in the spotlight and constantly talking about CO2 as if it was the only environmental issue. But nobody ever talks about consuming responsively. Because you gotta keep the dollar machine running by making people buy crap like idiots.

On the other hand, presenting global warming as something that can ruin Earth is good for journalists and co because it gives them dramatic things to go on about, which means audience for them. And it doesn't hurt anybody's sales. You can even abuse ecology to boost your sales-- pretend to be helping the Earth in whatever way and the idiots will all flock to buy your shit without thinking further.

There are all those plans and shit about collecting and recycling waste. But why not attack the issue at its source and produce less waste? :)

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Lunarius
Posted on 07-29-16 10:09 PM Link | #75219
Money makes the world go 'round.

On a side note, it would be impossible to deal with it because we humans have the tendency to destroy more than what we can preserve.




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MusiMasta
Posted on 07-29-16 11:21 PM Link | #75229
Well, less packaging would cost less so the product revenue would be more. So less waste would actually help, but the idiot manufacturers just don't realize this fact. :(

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Arisotura
Posted on 07-29-16 11:31 PM Link | #75235
a prime example would be dessert cups -- the cardboard thing around them. It's unnecessary. It's only really there to hold the cups together so they stay in a cluster of 4.

but without the cardboard holding them together, people could buy less than 4 cups, which would be inconvenient for both parties -- they end up paying the same price because the price is set for a cluster of 4, and you end up with stray dessert cups that you can't sell alone because, again, they're registered as clusters of 4 in your system.

maybe we should just rework the way those things are sold. Instead of selling clusters of 4 or whatever, they'd be sold individually, and maybe get price reductions depending on the amount you buy in one go.

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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 07-29-16 11:38 PM Link | #75236
Posted by StapleButter
>global warming


they're putting it in the spotlight and constantly talking about CO2 as if it was the only environmental issue. But nobody ever talks about consuming responsively. Because you gotta keep the dollar machine running by making people buy crap like idiots.

On the other hand, presenting global warming as something that can ruin Earth is good for journalists and co because it gives them dramatic things to go on about, which means audience for them. And it doesn't hurt anybody's sales. You can even abuse ecology to boost your sales-- pretend to be helping the Earth in whatever way and the idiots will all flock to buy your shit without thinking further.

There are all those plans and shit about collecting and recycling waste. But why not attack the issue at its source and produce less waste? :)

I believe "consuming responsibly" is actually part of the package that scientists advise on how to deal with global warming. Or in general. We've all heard of reducing intake of beef because of how deep their environmental impact is. Global warming is a serious problem, but by media, it doesn't seem as serious compared to terrorist attacks, plane crashes, whatever the latest thing about Kim Kardashian or Donald Trump... even events that are media-worthy like huge fires, heat waves, mudslides, they don't seem to link those events to global warming. What's worse is that some media outlets give climate change deniers some time, as if it's a valid position.

I'm not sure about this whole smart trend, but it might be just a fad. It just reminds me of one. And I don't see how this should be singled out compared to other consumerist fads.

MusiMasta
Posted on 07-30-16 12:01 AM Link | #75252
Yep. If we are at all to start on a path to solving this huge climate change issue, the media has to act. We are all heavily influenced by the media, and just the media pointing this out to everybody will make the problem seem much worse (media glorification) and people might actually start to take it up responsibly. Of course, it is on the media already, but not to the same degree, and definitely should be focused on more.



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fiver
Posted on 07-30-16 06:28 PM Link | #75327
Posted by MusiMasta
the media has to act.

i don't think anyone has faith in the media at this point tbh

hell, if we really want to solve things, we need to start making China actually improve their ways instead of america trying to fix stuff that isn't broken

Arisotura
Posted on 07-30-16 06:35 PM Link | #75330
the media? ahahahahahahahahahah

the only thing the media is good for is making people think everything is going wrong. gives them more audience -> more money.

but yeah. China needs to stop abusing coal. but eh, eventually they'll get sick of constantly having to put on masks and living as if they were on a hostile planet.

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Marionumber1
Posted on 07-30-16 06:43 PM Link | #75332
Posted by StapleButter
the media? ahahahahahahahahahah

the only thing the media is good for is making people think everything is going wrong. gives them more audience -> more money.


On certain issues. For others, the media tries to prevent or silence discussion on things that are wrong. That's more of a political topic, though, and probably belongs in the serious forum.

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 07-30-16 10:57 PM Link | #75343
Posted by StapleButter
the only thing the media is good for is making people think everything is going wrong. gives them more audience -> more money.

Even that's not totally right.

Rwandan genocide? Sierra Leone? Bosnian War?

Arisotura
Posted on 07-30-16 11:11 PM Link | #75344
the point is that you rarely hear them talk about something positive or neutral

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Baby Luigi
Posted on 07-30-16 11:51 PM Link | #75348
well if it weren't for the media, I wouldn't have heard about the Juno arrival to Jupiter.

Can we please have more of that and less drama?

MusiMasta
Posted on 07-31-16 01:07 AM Link | #75354
Posted by StapleButter
the point is that you rarely hear them talk about something positive or neutral


Yep, as the saying goes, people are more inclined to remember negative things and talk about them than positive things.

But people do like to hear good things, and those give them an audience and money too.

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CodingKoopa
Posted on 07-31-16 01:23 AM Link | #75359
Posted by StapleButter
the point is that you rarely hear them talk about something positive or neutral

Pokemon Go is a good example of this: media outlets not covering how it encourages people to go outside and meet new people (No, seriously, it's an amazing conversation starter, try it.), but how people are getting injured, the dangers of it, etc.

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