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Lunarius
Posted on 07-24-16 08:03 PM Link | #74676
I really want to know : does anyone here believe science proves religion right?




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MusiMasta
Posted on 07-24-16 08:05 PM Link | #74677
Posted by Lunarius
I really want to know : does anyone here believe science proves religion right?


Seems an interesting concept, but religions were made to explain the natural world when technology wasn't as advanced. So in a sense, I think religion proves science.

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Lunarius
Posted on 07-24-16 08:08 PM Link | #74678
Right? IIRC, Job 26:7 proved the Earth was floating in space by gravity when people at the time thought it was being held by elephants or something.




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MercuryPenny
Posted on 07-24-16 08:13 PM (rev. 2 of 07-24-16 08:13 PM) Link | #74679
science, and the theories derived from them, is heavily based on the personal observations of flawed humans. there's bound to be bias in the conclusions, or outright error.

i'm of the opinion that what science proves depends on who's observing it.


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Marionumber1
Posted on 07-24-16 08:22 PM Link | #74680
Posted by MercuryPenny
science, and the theories derived from them, is heavily based on the personal observations of flawed humans. there's bound to be bias in the conclusions, or outright error.

i'm of the opinion that what science proves depends on who's observing it.


Except the scientific method is meant to eliminate that bias as much as possible.

MusiMasta
Posted on 07-24-16 08:25 PM Link | #74681
yeah, i think that's the difference between science and religion. religion can depend on the science but of only a few people observing it, science would be lots of people testing it to remove the personal connection people have with the science (bias)

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Cypher123
Posted on 07-24-16 08:45 PM Link | #74683
I am a nondenominational Christian.
Ye.

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fiver
Posted on 07-24-16 09:05 PM Link | #74685
Posted by MercuryPenny
christian, though my church is not a 'normal' one.

What do you mean by "normal"? :P
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TheKoopaKingdom
Posted on 07-24-16 09:53 PM Link | #74689
Blarg. I'm not really that religious.

I used to go to a program at my church on every other Saturday, and than go into the sermon. Overall, it took 3 hours if I remember correctly, but now my family doesn't really go to the church anymore. I hated having to go to that program anyways.

So, I usually avoid religious conversations, either because
a. I don't have any standpoint.
b. I honestly don't care.

I guess I'm kinda leaning towards the atheist side of things, although I haven't talked to my family about it.

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Stygmax
Posted on 07-26-16 02:48 PM (rev. 2 of 07-26-16 02:50 PM) Link | #74809
I'm a Bahá'í.

Read this, it does a bang-up job explaining it. In the past few years I've cultivated a desire to work in foreign relations, particularly those pertaining to religion, as a potential career (if you're wondering where I've been, that's your answer. Studying.). Might end up going for a comparative religion degree. Wish me luck, I guess.

EDIT: A couple of years ago when I was very active in this community, I would have gone absolutely bananas on this thread and virulently denounced all forms of religion as backwards and culture-exclusive. Needless to say, I've sorted out my priorities since then.
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Hiccup
Posted on 07-26-16 08:37 PM Link | #74852
I think it is naive to believe that all of religion is bad or all of religion is good. It is a mixture, as with most things.

Stygmax
Posted on 07-26-16 08:50 PM Link | #74854
Also thought I'd add that there's actually a lot of wisdom on this board. There aren't a lot of places on the internet where you see discourse this open and productive.
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NintendoFan
Posted on 07-28-16 05:15 AM (rev. 2 of 07-28-16 05:16 AM) Link | #74999
I'm an atheist. I just can't bring myself to believe that some powerful omnipotent "god" exists. Where is the proof?

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StapleButter
Posted on 07-28-16 05:42 AM Link | #75001
there's none, but there's no proof that said god doesn't exist either.

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Super-toad 65
Posted on 07-28-16 07:28 AM (rev. 3 of 08-10-16 02:27 AM) Link | #75005
I am a catholic christian forced by my parents, but i want to be atheist for a reason that i don't want to let you know, other than i do not believe in "my" religion's divinity -.-

And no, the reason is because i don't like going every sunday to the church to listen to a thing that i consider boring. I didn't want to publish it because of yes -.-

I want to post the conversations with my parents about this argument, but it's hard to do in italian (my native language), try to figure out in english how messy is -.-

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StapleButter
Posted on 07-28-16 07:47 AM (rev. 2 of 07-28-16 07:58 AM) Link | #75007
I am a catholic christian forced by my parents, but i want to be atheist for a reason that i don't want to let you know, other than i do not believe in "my" religion's divinity -.-

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fiver
Posted on 07-28-16 08:54 AM Link | #75008
hey super-toad pls don't bring that drama here, bud

also, if you want to be an atheist for a reason that you don't want us to know, what brings you to this thread...?
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Tahcryon
Posted on 07-28-16 08:58 AM Link | #75010
Aren't you supposed to post your belief, which is what he did? It's his choice whether or not he wants to expand upon his beliefs.

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Marionumber1
Posted on 07-28-16 09:30 AM Link | #75015
Posted by StapleButter
there's none, but there's no proof that said god doesn't exist either.


The burden of proof doesn't work that way.

fiver
Posted on 07-28-16 09:36 AM Link | #75016
how so?

it works in most ways, why can't it work there?
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