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Baby Luigi
Posted on 12-25-17 02:02 PM Link | #92501
The Big Bang wasn't the creation of the universe though. It was a massive, rapid expansion from a short period of time.

Marionumber1
Posted on 12-25-17 02:30 PM Link | #92502
I also don't get how the "something-from-nothing" argument is somehow used as proof that God must exist, like God always having existed is no less problematic than matter and energy always having existed.

GalacticPirate
Posted on 12-26-17 01:26 PM Link | #92514
What's even funnier is that "something from nothing" is one of the most common and basic things in quantum mechanics :P Each second kazillions of 'virtual particles' are created from nothing and die in the nothing. And that even explains Hawking radiation which basically makes black holes die one day or another. So no, something from nothing is not a problem, since 1+(-1) equals 0 :P

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 12-26-17 03:28 PM Link | #92516
Posted by fiver
I don't believe in the big bang theory, though, because of the Law of the Conservation of Matter. shit doesn't just appear like that in the name of science.

Think about this, though, don't you think the experts would've already rejected the Big Bang faster than you can say, "Pluto is not a planet" if it were this obviously flawed? The Big Bang relates to the sudden EXPANSION of matter, not the creation of it. As Brian Greene puts it, "The Big Bang is a theory … that delineates cosmic evolution from a split second after whatever happened to bring the universe into existence, but it says nothing at all about time zero itself. "

StarPants
Posted on 12-26-17 03:45 PM Link | #92518
GalacticPirate Yeah but isn't it funny that there is way more matter than antimatter in the universe. Virtual particles always come in particle-antiparticle pairs as far as i know. I mean where did all this matter come from and where's the corresponding antimatter that should have formed in the big bang? We seriously need some kind of god Quantum Gravity Theory to explain that.

iyenal
Posted on 01-07-18 02:32 PM Link | #92707
We have to call a second Einstein now. Who is willing to do that ?

Mathematics, and sciences in globality are vulgarizations of the physical world. So it is a matter of how you understand them, because yes there aren't one way of thinking.
And remember that we don't know everything yet, and we will not know. This is the puzzle of the universe, and big bang is a part of where there are still unknown factors.

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LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 01-13-18 02:30 PM Link | #92809
Posted by StarPants
I mean where did all this matter come from and where's the corresponding antimatter that should have formed in the big bang? We seriously need some kind of god Quantum Gravity Theory to explain that.

The common retort to "where did this all come from" is usually the question "what's north of the North Pole?" since it's not really a question that can be answered.

StarPants
Posted on 01-13-18 06:43 PM Link | #92812
Yeah that option where time before the Big Bang is simply undefined can be true, but there are many self-consistent (but unproven) theories saying that the Big Bang has happened several, maybe infinite times. (One of those theories is called the Big Bounce theory and it's supported by the Loop Quantum Gravity Theory which, in my opinion, is much more promising theory than the hyped String Theory.)

XxRaiderxX
Posted on 01-19-18 07:45 AM Link | #92873
I follow Islam because it makes the most sense. God (or allah) is the most powerful, the greatest. One reason I'll never get into christianity is because they believe jesus is the son of god, which is an offence to god because god is the greatest, he is nowhere equal to a human. God has no family, wife brother sister or anything. God is just one

XAIXER
Posted on 01-19-18 10:58 AM Link | #92875
Monotheism makes the most sense? Polytheism is much more balanced.

Belsaw
Posted on 01-19-18 04:36 PM Link | #92890
I had a dilemma over posting in this thread until I was like why the heck not, go for it.

I am a hardcore atheist. Religion is a dangerous ideology that has rarely brought anything good to humanity. Case in point: Crusades and Jihad. I could go on forever about every single religion including Jainism (which is way too peaceful to be productive).

I don't really believe in the paranormal and the supernatural although I am fascinated by it. I have lately been listening to and reading a few creepypastas along with supposedly true stories here and there. (I recommend the subreddits r/creepypasta, r/letsnotmeet, r/nosleep, and r/paranormal.) But I do stay away from Ouija boards just in case. I have experienced a few unexplained occurences before, namely random noises, but I do not even consider it to be "demons" or "ghosts" or "magical sky genie".


Face it, kids. Santa is fake. The real Santa died over a thousand years ago.

LeftyGreenMario
Posted on 01-19-18 05:43 PM Link | #92895
Why do you stay away from Ouija boards? They're just a bunch of cardboard and wood or whatever material it's made from. I don't believe in spirits or any sort of paranormal. That's the stuff of fiction and the scientific method can never ever detect them. Through Occam's Razor, they don't exist.

"unexplained occurrences" could be hallucinations (perceiving things that aren't there), your bad memory, and so on

XAIXER
Posted on 01-19-18 06:17 PM Link | #92898
Religion is indeed very problematic.

Belsaw
Posted on 01-19-18 07:05 PM Link | #92899
Yeah, I think the noises and other stuff were probably just wood adjusting to temperature or some animal scurrying around.

As for Ouija boards, I don't know, I just get this bad feeling from even thinking about making one. Yes it's all fake but "it's all in your mind" is one helluva drug. You consciously know something is not real but your brain unconsciously screws with you.
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