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Splitwirez
Posted on 01-19-15 09:07 PM Link | #54651
Well, I wanted to make sure that no more threads would be destroyed by scientific nonsensibility, so I decided to make a thread about it. Post your theories here! Here are some of mine:


How Ice Mario can generate Ice: His body temperature is so low, it freezes water solid, and has a similar effect on water vapour. Moisture trapped in solid surfaces is also affected, thus explaining how he can skate on any surface, to some extent.

SMG1 "Dark Matter": This one is simple: It's antimatter that was incorrectly translated, which is understandable, given the fact that the 2 are often confused by those who don't know better.

Small Planets and their disproportionate gravities: This is where the real Dark Matter comes in. The planets just have Dark Matter at their cores. Dark Matter is extremely dense, which gives it a very strong gravitational pull, and it's IMPERCEPTIBLE to the human eye.

Death by falling into oblivion: Again, real-life Dark Matter. when Mario falls, he's falling towards Dark Matter, which would crush him into a tiny diamond...kinda like the Earth's core...except you'd be vaporized before you got there.

Reincarnation/Lives: It's like Mario Kart, except offscreen.

Fire Flower Power: Eels can generate electricity, and dead plants become compressed into coal over time. The fire flower grows massive roots to extract coal from the ground, and uses electricity to ignite it.

Powerups in blocks: the Blocks are Wormholes.

Fireballs underwater: Mario knows how to plan ahead, and carries small pieces of solid rocket fuel with him for underwater adventures. I got this one from a YouTube video, but I forget who made it.

Firebars: Rotating glass tubes with 2 chemicals being pumped through them. These chemicals react with each other, thereby exploding. Then the explosions are funneled through small holes in the glass tubes, to create a burst effect. Now, repeat. I know there are chemical combinations that do this, but I can't think of any offhand.

Not suffocating underwater in the sidescrolling games: Mario uses a rebreather. In 64, he probably forgot about it in the chaos of the following events. In Sunshine, he didn't come prepared for the chaos he'd be greeted by (I'm assuming Mario can suffocate underwater in SUnshine, I've never played it). In Galaxy...he's numerous lightyears from home, so ain't nobody got time fo' dat! 3D Land and 3D World conform to the sidescrollers' logic.

Bowser never learns his lesson: He's a determined moron, perhaps to the point of insanity.

Life Mushrooms: They form a durable membrane over Mario's body, hence why losing all 3 of their granted life wedges removes them so they cannot be recovered afterwards, and this also explains the coloration of their UI element.

Goombas' effectiveness in killing: They're intelligent mushrooms, loosely speaking. Many Mushrooms can deliver deadly poisons by touch. Need I explain further?

shibboleet
Posted on 01-19-15 09:08 PM Link | #54652
Stop ruining childhood games. :(

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Splitwirez
Posted on 01-19-15 09:10 PM Link | #54654
Posted by Luigi
Stop ruining childhood games. :(

I'm trying to justify their principles of gameplay, not ruin them.

Arisotura
Posted on 01-19-15 09:11 PM Link | #54655
Posted by Splitwirez
How Ice Mario can generate Ice: His body temperature is so low, it freezes water solid, and has a similar effect on water vapour. Moisture trapped in solid surfaces is also affected, thus explaining how he can skate on any surface, to some extent.

Unhealthy, he would die.


Also how the fuck does he breathe in space, genius?

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Splitwirez
Posted on 01-19-15 09:15 PM Link | #54656
Posted by StapleButter
Posted by Splitwirez
How Ice Mario can generate Ice: His body temperature is so low, it freezes water solid, and has a similar effect on water vapour. Moisture trapped in solid surfaces is also affected, thus explaining how he can skate on any surface, to some extent.

Unhealthy, he would die.


Also how the fuck does he breathe in space, genius?

15 seconds at that temperature can kill? There's a reason for the limited duration (other than gameplay balance).


Mario has to breathe in Space in SMG/SMG2? Well, I thought humans were able to hold their breath for 5 seconds, which is longer than a launch star flight. Planets with enough Dark Matter in their cores to have Earth-like gravity would presumably be able to hold an atmosphere.

Marionumber1
Posted on 01-19-15 09:18 PM Link | #54657
This thread is just ridiculous. Everyone knows that Mario breathes in space thanks to the Baby Luma. Why do you feel the need to justify the physics of a video game that was never concerned with realism?

Splitwirez
Posted on 01-19-15 09:21 PM Link | #54659
Posted by Marionumber1
This thread is just ridiculous. Everyone knows that Mario breathes in space thanks to the Baby Luma. Why do you feel the need to justify the physics of a video game that was never concerned with realism?

I honestly don't know. I'm gonna try either way, nothing I can do about it, so better it be its own thread than clog up others.

Also...I never thought of Lumas "breathing" like plants in daytime...if that's what you mean, as that would convert Carbon Dioxide into Oxygen, and the human body converts Oxygen into Carbon Dioxide.


Wait, there's still the end of SMG2. DANGIT.

Arisotura
Posted on 01-19-15 09:21 PM Link | #54660
And have you ever tried to quickly change your body temperature?


See, we're getting stuck.

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Splitwirez
Posted on 01-19-15 09:23 PM Link | #54661
Posted by StapleButter
And have you ever tried to quickly change your body temperature?


See, we're getting stuck.

No, I haven't tried that, actually. What's your...

...oh, right, that'd burn him pretty badly. Eh...non-instantaneous effect? (Hence the brief gameplay pause while collecting an Ice Flower)

Arisotura
Posted on 01-19-15 09:26 PM Link | #54662
So, when you briefly alter your body temperature, that also has the side effect of pausing the whole world for a couple seconds?


You gotta be a superhero.

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Splitwirez
Posted on 01-19-15 09:27 PM Link | #54663
Posted by StapleButter
So, when you briefly alter your body temperature, that also has the side effect of pausing the whole world for a couple seconds?


You gotta be a superhero.


No, it doesn't "pause the world". Time keeps flowing, just...not from Mario's perspective.

shibboleet
Posted on 01-19-15 09:29 PM Link | #54664
Let's just say that Nintendo's point of game logic is far beyond any form of reality.

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kaj
Posted on 01-19-15 09:31 PM Link | #54665
Explanation for all of this: Shrooms.

Marionumber1
Posted on 01-19-15 09:32 PM Link | #54666
The gravity Mario experiences is the same on every planet, even the incredibly small ones. Newton's law of universal gravitation allows us to state the gravity on a planet in terms of planet mass (M) and planet radius (r), as such:

g = GM/r^2
G = 6.67 * 10^-11

Let's assume an Earth-like gravity, such as 9.8. MrRean says that some planets have a 4 meter radius, so r=4. Solving for M, we get 2350824587706.147 kilograms. The density of the planet (assuming a perfectly spherical planet) then becomes 8769031722.07969 kg/m^3. Earth's density is 5514 kg/m^3. So a planet is SMG is around 1590321 times denser than the Earth (over a million times). That's realistic.

Splitwirez
Posted on 01-19-15 09:38 PM (rev. 2 of 01-19-15 09:38 PM) Link | #54667
Posted by Marionumber1
The gravity Mario experiences is the same on every planet, even the incredibly small ones. Newton's law of universal gravitation allows us to state the gravity on a planet in terms of planet mass (M) and planet radius (r), as such:

g = GM/r^2
G = 6.67 * 10^-11

Let's assume an Earth-like gravity, such as 9.8. MrRean says that some planets have a 4 meter radius, so r=4. Solving for M, we get 2350824587706.147 kilograms. The density of the planet (assuming a perfectly spherical planet) then becomes 8769031722.07969 kg/m^3. Earth's density is 5514 kg/m^3. So a planet is SMG is around 1590321 times denser than the Earth (over a million times). That's realistic.

I'd say some relatively minor variation in the gravity is likely present. Also, what did you mean by "That's realistic."? I'm assuming you don't actually mean that, otherwise you presumably wouldn't have said it.

I did not expect anyone to come in here with hard, solid math. The shared ambition is pleasing :3

Marionumber1
Posted on 01-19-15 09:41 PM Link | #54668
Posted by Splitwirez
I'd say some relatively minor variation in the gravity is likely present.


A similarly unrealistic density difference would follow.

Also, what did you mean by "That's realistic."? I'm assuming you don't actually mean that, otherwise you presumably wouldn't have said it.


Yes, it was sarcasm.

I did not expect anyone to come in here with hard, solid math. The shared ambition is pleasing :3


Would be a shame if I didn't do something with what I learned in physics class.

Splitwirez
Posted on 01-19-15 09:45 PM (rev. 2 of 01-19-15 09:45 PM) Link | #54669
Posted by Marionumber1
Posted by Splitwirez
I'd say some relatively minor variation in the gravity is likely present.


A similarly unrealistic density difference would follow.

Also, what did you mean by "That's realistic."? I'm assuming you don't actually mean that, otherwise you presumably wouldn't have said it.


Yes, it was sarcasm.

I did not expect anyone to come in here with hard, solid math. The shared ambition is pleasing :3


Would be a shame if I didn't do something with what I learned in physics class.


I'm not seeing your point regarding density differences.

SARCASM. My achilles' heel. Sarcasm and metaphors, that is. I don't get either.

I'm becoming less and less afraid of Grades 10 - 12...
Confirm or disprove fear, please.

Marionumber1
Posted on 01-19-15 09:47 PM Link | #54670
Posted by Splitwirez
I'm not seeing your point regarding density differences.


A minor alteration in the gravity wouldn't change the density difference by that much. It's very unrealistic in the context of the real world either way.

I'm becoming less and less afraid of Grades 10 - 12...
Confirm or disprove fear, please.


Well, this was grade 9 physics, so I can't really.

Splitwirez
Posted on 01-19-15 10:22 PM (rev. 2 of 01-19-15 10:23 PM) Link | #54673
Posted by Marionumber1
Posted by Splitwirez
I'm not seeing your point regarding density differences.


A minor alteration in the gravity wouldn't change the density difference by that much. It's very unrealistic in the context of the real world either way.

I'm becoming less and less afraid of Grades 10 - 12...
Confirm or disprove fear, please.


Well, this was grade 9 physics, so I can't really.

I tried...I tried to explain Mario games with Science...

...and I didn't entirely succeed...

...and your math didn't greatly help...

...darn. What about my other theories?





Wait...that's Grade 9 physics? I knew I'd regret dropping science this year.

Arisotura
Posted on 01-19-15 10:55 PM Link | #54678
Have you tried doing math or physics while on drugs?

Same deal. Let's just stop being nerds and admit this is a videogame.

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