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 Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 163 
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 Boss Bass Normal user Level: 75 
Posts: 709/1551 EXP: 3661452 Next: 165452 Since: 06-15-14 From: Germany Last post: 2277 days ago Last view: 2250 days ago |
I always have the feeling that SMG hacking is going to die. Nothing interesting here anymore, except Plumber's Way, 2.5, NMG and some new documentations. Almost every new post is in Relaxland/General Chat. There has to be a way to interest people for SMG hacking... :/ Youtube | Github | Neo Mario Galaxy | Super Mario Galaxy & Super Mario 3D Land Modding |
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Otherwise known as rob55rod. Should probably get back to SMG2 at some point... Level: 68 
Posts: 516/1207 EXP: 2613295 Next: 115505 Since: 08-28-13 From: ._______________. Last post: 1953 days ago Last view: 1563 days ago |
Posted by SunakazeKun 2.5 drew some interest, did it not? Maybe one of those hacks could have the same effect...if any can get onto a remotely well-known channel... |
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Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 163
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Otherwise known as rob55rod. Should probably get back to SMG2 at some point... Level: 68
Posts: 517/1207 EXP: 2613295 Next: 115505 Since: 08-28-13 From: ._______________. Last post: 1953 days ago Last view: 1563 days ago |
Posted by StapleButter Yeah, I'm totally considering abandoning the first Mario game I ever played (or rather, its slightly less amazing sequel) and slide over to some far less engaging DS game I have opportunities to play averaging around 3 times a year. Sounds like a GREAT idea. I probably won't stop hacking SMG2 even if there's no community left. I like the complexity, it makes stuff interesting. Sure, it took me 2 years to get to the point at which I was able to create Star Savannah, but MAN was it worth it. There's nothing else that has quite the same effect. |
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Boss Bass Normal user Level: 75
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I don't think MG2 is that complex. It took 1 to 2 months to figure out the basics. Youtube | Github | Neo Mario Galaxy | Super Mario Galaxy & Super Mario 3D Land Modding |
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Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 163
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If you like it, stick to it, obviously. But if you want something popular, SM64DS is maybe better (although maybe not, it's a remake after all). If you want something easy, SM64DS is a better choice. If you want something you can share with people in ways other than merely showing off levels, SM64DS is a better choice. If you want something you can take anywhere to impress your friends, SM64DS is a better choice, but that's only because it runs on a handheld. ____________________ NSMBHD - Kafuka - Jul melonDS the most fruity DS emulator there is zafkflzdasd |
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Otherwise known as rob55rod. Should probably get back to SMG2 at some point... Level: 68
Posts: 518/1207 EXP: 2613295 Next: 115505 Since: 08-28-13 From: ._______________. Last post: 1953 days ago Last view: 1563 days ago |
Posted by StapleButter SM64DS runs on a handheld. That's why I'm so seldomly able to play it. |
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Member Normal user Level: 67 Posts: 808/1217 EXP: 2573264 Next: 19608 Since: 03-26-14 Last post: 2656 days ago Last view: 1376 days ago |
Why would we hack SM64DS instead because it's easy to hack and all that? We didn't choose SMG to just hack a random game. |
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SMG2.5 Cartographer Level: 88 
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This is ridiculous. SMG hacking has far more activity now than when 2.5 was at its height.
Two projects are going and excellent progress is being made. Some new members are coming in as well. In fact, it's more popular than SM64DS right now. What's the point of all these threads prematurely proclaiming the demise of SMG hacking? It hasn't happened and I doubt it will. There will always be a few people. And that's good enough for me. Don't be so pessimistic. Status: It was really, really fun, guys - thanks for the ride!
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Member I have found a basket to put in my SD card reader so I never lose it Level: 66 
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It's not because you moved on to Super Mario 3D Land hacking the entire world did. ____________________ ![[image]](http://backloggery.com/anthe/sig.gif) |
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 Fire Mario DROP TABLE users; Level: 123 Posts: 3408/4661 EXP: 20868893 Next: 362373 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 1340 days ago Last view: 353 days ago |
I never moved into 3DL or 3DW hacking, I just posted documentation for the fun of it.
And for the last damn time, it's an OPINION.This is not fact.But yes, I do have to agree that it's still possibly going strong, but I can tell you that 2.5 will probably not be released, I don't know. I've lost full motivation to work on it, and the other 2 hacks look good as well. I don't know where it will go, but everybody seems to love to pick on the 'other games' part, yet not looking at my other points. ____________________ a |
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Star Mario in this room you have a pile of apple pies Level: 163
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Otherwise known as rob55rod. Should probably get back to SMG2 at some point... Level: 68
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Posted by Stygmax Yay, optimism! There is hope  |
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Member The guy who does things. Level: 31 
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Posted by Luigi 3D Land and 3D World are many things. "Better than Galaxy" is certainly not one of them. I for one just can't call a game modern when it rejects implementing recently used or new mechanics for gameplay that's existed since 1985. They're simple games for simple people. |
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 Bullet Bill Normal user Level: 47 
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Posted by MercuryPenny That's likely why you could re-create Super Mario Bros, the l0st levels, AND Super Mario Bros. 3, as well as still have room in the ROM for the original SMW levels. oh, and change the physics/graphics accordingly (that's probably an exaderation, but that gave has been hacked to hell and back, and there are STILL people doing it, me included) back on topic, I really think part of the activity drop (if any), would be, as mentioned, the editor. It resembles SM64DSe, but I added a hammer bro to flip swap and still have no clue how to play the level back, meanwhile I created almost 50 stars in SM64DS (well, modded, really), had them all deleted (OK they still exist, but I can't build on them), moved to a new rom, and was STILL able to create almost 15 stars. If you want to hack SMG, go for it. If you have no idea how to do it, but still want to, you're not going to get very far, unfortunately. if you don't want to, don't do it. no matter how much you don't want to, there will still be people who do. ____________________ |
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Normal user Level: 26 Posts: 124/129 EXP: 96075 Next: 6200 Since: 07-08-12 Last post: 3332 days ago Last view: 2305 days ago |
I don't necessarily disagree with your points on SMG, but the thing is, all your points apply equally well to all home console 3D games from the GC and onwards. So saying that there's better games to hack doesn't make sense, unless you're talking about SM64, and suggesting that 3DW should somehow be better to hack is just flat out ridiculous. |
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Member Mawile or riot Level: 73 
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^this
Hacking Mario is a waste of time. Period. 
I mean is there really a better way to put it? True SMG hacking will not be realized in the near future. Same with 3DL, SMS, and 3DW. People can keep trying to convince themselves otherwise, but at the end of the day you have to look at what you accomplished today and say "if I did all this every day for a year where would I be?" For SMG, I think we know where it'll be in a year. Two years, three years. The galaxies are my 2 favorite games of all time, and yes hacking them would be fantastic. I would also enjoy flying and breathing underwater. Sorry to those with hope. I get where you're coming from. I really do. I was there 2 years ago. "We've totally got this guys!" No you don't. Sorry, but it's a waste of time. Maybe you don't care if it's a success and are just doing it for fun. Well that doesn't change my opinion, but I also don't really care how any of you spend your time. I'm just saying that it's not going anywhere and nothing can be done to change that. And if something could be done, it wouldn't be. And yes, I am still taking the time to type this out. Why? Well I hate to see a valid point come up with the wrong solution. To be frank, the solution isn't to move to a new game. Unless you want to actually organize a team for a real game, which might be cool, but even that likely wouldn't get anywhere. Blank has it right. There really isn't an alternative to SMG. SMS isn't even where SMG is, and 3DL and 3DW haven't been close to hacked. Sometimes the truth bites. |
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Fire Mario DROP TABLE users; Level: 123 Posts: 3411/4661 EXP: 20868893 Next: 362373 Since: 07-07-12 Last post: 1340 days ago Last view: 353 days ago |
Well looking through, my opinion has changed, and you guys are right.
And it's not just all Mario games, really. It's the ROM hacking community as a whole, that's starting to die. ____________________ a |
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